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Github has made it impossible to create an account when using a VPN and a privacy browser with fully spoofed hardware identifiers. (Use Firefox or Firefox-based Privacy Browser, VPN, install Canvasblocker to test this.) I create an account with Google or Apple (both requiring hardware identifiers and numbers and birthdates) or I can use an email. When I use an email, it comes back with this horrible test, and even if I do it completely correctly, it tells me after I didn't do the test right, gaslighting me with a picture of what I chose (which I didn't choose) and showing me the correct picture (which I did choose and it claims I didn't select).

It's fucking bullshit and it's more corporate control of open source software. For people who have their discussion or issue tracker, I can't even participate without hardware identifiers likely linked to me some other way and phone numbers. It's fucking bullshit. If anyone from Microsoft is reading this, FUCK YOU!!!!!!!!!!

I am so tired of this bullshit. I just want to post an issue about a piece of software. You don't need my fingerprint, hardware or personal, or biometric shit. This is a slippery slope. Fuck them.

I really hope more developers just get the fuck off Github. Honestly, if you are developing privacy-oriented software and using github, there's a mistmatch and it's bullshit, and I know it's time consuming and annoying to move, but please do. This is fucking bullshit and it's not like it's going to become LESS annoying over time. FUCK THIS.

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[-] flandish@lemmy.world 143 points 1 week ago
[-] turboSnail@piefed.europe.pub 9 points 1 week ago

What about GitLab? When Microsoft bought GitHub, people got angry, and migrated their code to GitLab. When that happened, GitLab was all over the headlines for a while, but I haven't read much about it ever since.

[-] sleepmode@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago

They seem to be going for IPO so codeberg it is.

[-] ell1e@leminal.space 15 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Gitlab has a horrible UI when you have a smaller screen or lower end device, and I heard also not really great server-side performance compared to forgejo and gitea.

Also, the gitlab.com instance randomly blocks people or demands their credit card data.

[-] EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world 112 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

If you want a cloud alternative to GitHub run by a non-profit and hosted outside of the U.S.

If you want to get your data out of the cloud entirely, or at least under a VPS you control, self host your own git repo (Using the same software as Codeberg)

[-] RustyShackleford@piefed.social 22 points 1 week ago

Done, thanks for the links. 👍

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[-] PrinzKasper@feddit.org 58 points 1 week ago

Playing devil's advocate, it's probably more about blocking bots from creating accounts than it is about blocking privacy minded users. You just end up being collateral damage.

Obviously that still sucks, I'm just saying it's not that simple

[-] ell1e@leminal.space 18 points 1 week ago

Gitlab.com has similar problems, sadly. Meanwhile, I haven't ever heard of Codeberg doing somethign similar, but who knows I guess.

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[-] davel@lemmy.ml 51 points 1 week ago

Tell me how you really feel 😅

They also own Visual Studio Code, control VSCode, and effectively control the VSCodium soft fork.

[-] belated_frog_pants@beehaw.org 21 points 1 week ago

They decided they wanted to own software development and here we are ;/

Fuck ms

[-] silverneedle@lemmy.ca 14 points 1 week ago

This is why you use Emacs, Kate, Neovim and so on. Never understood how anyone could use a software as confusing as VSCode.

[-] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

It feels like people are just punching themselves in the face.

Yes, Microsoft has taken over a lot of projects which made coding easy. So either you submit to Microsoft's control or you spend the time to learn to use the alternatives.

Emacs is basically older than computers, stable and has a huge amount of support and plug-ins. Nvim is newer, but vi/vim have existed since before electrons learned to jump bandgaps and has a similarly deep level of community expertise/support.

If you're just starting off, your school is likely deep in Micrsoft's sphere of influence so you probably learned VS Code/Visual Studio. Moving to Emacs or Nvim is much harder than it would be if you had learned them in the first place, but believe me (a random stranger on the Internet wouldn't lie to you!) it is worth the time to learn.

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[-] GnuLinuxDude@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 week ago

What do you mean about VSCodium? Obviously it's just a differently compiled version of Microsoft's text editor, but what does Microsoft have to do with it, otherwise?

[-] umbrella@lemmy.ml 24 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

it's effectively the same as chrome vs chromium. google/microsoft invests the resources to develop it, and someone simply comes and forks it without the closed source parts or telemetry.

which is fine, but means they still get to dictate how the software works. the best real world example i have is chrome and adblockers, or google-made web "standards".

[-] davel@lemmy.ml 18 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Yeah. Your example: How many forks of Chome/Chromium have rejected Google’s Manifest v3 changes? Zero, because they’re all soft forks and don’t have the resources to hard fork.

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[-] davel@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 week ago

“Otherwise” is doing Herculean lifting here when the code is nearly 100% Microsoft. The way they control it is by changing VSCode’s code, which is then dutifully incorporated into VSCodium, with the exception of telemetry code.

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[-] NoDignity@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

This is why I use Zed as an alternative with the added upside that Zed runs about 500x better than VSCode

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[-] Liketearsinrain@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Did something happen with Codium or do you just mean in general due to controlling extension marketplace, access to their closed source ones etc.

Edit: missed your other comment, never mind

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[-] herseycokguzelolacak@lemmy.ml 33 points 1 week ago

I use codeberg.org for my stuff.

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[-] JiveTurkey@lemmy.world 28 points 1 week ago

It's the same story for basically anything MS touches.

[-] 0x0@lemmy.zip 27 points 1 week ago

CodeBerg is the way, or host your own forgejo.

[-] mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca 27 points 1 week ago

a coworker invited me to his company GitHub team or something recently, and I tried to join several times. each time, I got stuck with a 10 question test to "verify I was human". it was not quick. eventually, I had time to actually complete it without timing out.

after completing it correctly twice without success, I gave up

[-] Tiger_Man_@szmer.info 18 points 1 week ago

Selfhosted git doesn't require anything

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[-] autonomoususer@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago

Bro literallly posted a photo of a pile of shit, lmaoo

[-] JTskulk@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago

I can't figure out if Free software projects don't know or don't care that GitHub is run by Microslop.

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[-] gokayburucdev@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago

If something is controlled by a giant corporation and keeping your data and privacy are offered for free, the price is your personel data.🔏

[-] obelisk_complex@piefed.ca 14 points 1 week ago

Agree completely, these shenanigans are a big reason I'm on a selfhosting rampage at the minute. Speaking of, does anyone have favourite self-hosted alternatives?

[-] MagnificentSteiner@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 week ago

I've been enjoying using FreshRSS, RecipeSage, Kavita (ebook library/reader) and Flatnotes. My server OS is OpenMediaVault which i've been very happy with.

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[-] utopiah@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 week ago
[-] artyom@piefed.social 10 points 1 week ago

Been that way for a long time. They rejected me years ago. Much like Google, MS is in the ad business, and they want your personal details to sell to advertisers. Letting you sign up with fake account is contrary to their interests.

It infuriates me to no end that so many FOSS devs are still using Github. No one fucking cares about privacy or sovereignty until it personally fucks them.

[-] Cantaloupe@lemmy.fedioasis.cc 10 points 1 week ago

What a great ad for codeberg.

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[-] Zerush@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 week ago
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[-] whelk@retrolemmy.com 9 points 1 week ago

I've wanted to for a while, but this post gave me the final nudge I needed to just buckle down and try selfhosting my own. Forgejo was incredibly easy to set up and my buddies and I are already successfully collaborating on a project that I've moved over from Github. So thanks for making your rant post, you made a difference

[-] Anon518@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 week ago

I downvoted for the image. If you're going to make a text post, make a text post.

[-] ricecake@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 week ago

Tangential to the main point you're going for: when you say fingerprint or biometrics I think you're referring to passkeys.
Passkeys don't share any of your fingerprint or other biometric identifiers with anyone.

https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2023/10/passkeys-and-privacy

One of the major design criteria of their creation was to be an increase in security without sacrificing privacy. It's made them more finicky to get working but there's a very good reason they're very popular with security professionals.

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[-] ReallyCoolDude@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 week ago

Use codeberg. I stopped using github for my projects a while ago.

[-] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Btw, CanvasBlocker actually doesn't do much more than default Firefox nowadays but breaks more things.

[-] lithiumground@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago
[-] Pissed@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 week ago

Fuck computers they're war machines.

[-] whelk@retrolemmy.com 5 points 1 week ago

"How about a nice game of chess?"

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[-] ramble81@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 week ago

I’m curious when this happened. I literally created a new account for GitHub this week, only using an email address, and on Firefox. No wonky tests or anything needed.

[-] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

It's probably being A/B tested and you're not in the test group yet.

Or, alternatively, OP is from an area that's been designated as having an increased risk of fake accounts and these extra measures are being deployed selectively.

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[-] Formfiller@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

My college has a Microsoft email account they just gave me but It says I need to download an unrelated app to log in. I don’t really want to do that

[-] Artafernes@lemmus.org 5 points 1 week ago

No need for that massive pile of shit

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