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Zohran Maoist arc in 2026 challenge

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[-] wombat@hexbear.net 60 points 6 days ago

the maoist uprising against the landlords was the largest and most comprehensive proletarian revolution in history, and led to almost totally-equal redistribution of land among the peasantry

[-] Mindfury@hexbear.net 30 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)
[-] CoolerOpposide@hexbear.net 24 points 6 days ago

More and more people are saying this

[-] hollowmines@hexbear.net 66 points 6 days ago

I only see complaints about him on here but tbh he is approximately 1000% better and cooler than my current "liberal" mayor, for the public bathroom funding initiative alone.

[-] Le_Wokisme@hexbear.net 60 points 6 days ago

liberals buried the bar in hell

[-] UmbraVivi@hexbear.net 23 points 6 days ago

Yeah he's had missteps but if every US politician was like Zohran we'd be in a much, much better place

[-] Ram_The_Manparts@hexbear.net 11 points 6 days ago

"vote for the lesser evil"

[-] ChestRockwell@hexbear.net 54 points 6 days ago

you can't always get what you want stalin-cig

but if you try sometimes i-voted

you'll find hasan-ok-dude

you get what you need mao-aggro-shining

[-] LeeeroooyJeeenkiiins@hexbear.net 30 points 6 days ago

and some people want to take away taglines

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[-] sewer_rat_420@hexbear.net 51 points 6 days ago

He was inside a slum on his first day as mayor, documenting the issues, and met with a tenant council. Politically I disagree with some of his positions of course, but he does really seem to care about especially the issue of rent and bad landlords. And its easy points to score with your constituents, no one likes their landlord.

I am also excited that the DSA-NYC is still pushing for stuff, they are trying to have a huge rally in Albany in a couple weeks to push for funding the Zohr-genda (taxing the rich)

This is me. I absolutely know better. I didn't fall for it. I'm perfectly willing to drink the disappointment when he wants an Israel tax or something. But God strike me down if this isn't neat.

[-] came_apart_at_Kmart@hexbear.net 48 points 6 days ago

good god, just offering a publicly supported platform for tenants to come together with grievances against landlords in the borough is some real shit.

i bet the vibe will be electric.

some real "We are the rhydo, kid. We're the fuel. We're the thing that explodes when there is too much friction in the air."

[-] purpleworm@hexbear.net 47 points 6 days ago

Has he apologized for his tweet in sympathy for the cops that killed that guy having a mental episode in his own home, in front of his parents?

[-] miz@hexbear.net 31 points 6 days ago

you have the right to be shot in front of a home you can afford!

[-] SickSemper@hexbear.net 15 points 6 days ago
[-] purpleworm@hexbear.net 12 points 6 days ago

I did actually think it was possible that he gave a bad and inadequate apology, though I certainly was not meaning to ask if he seemed serious about making amends for his wrongdoing.

[-] SickSemper@hexbear.net 18 points 6 days ago

Fair, but he only apologizes for being too left wing (cops, Maduro), never for being too right wing

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[-] Des@hexbear.net 38 points 6 days ago

he's not perfect but he's definitely laying an interesting pathway to follow

the liberal trump (or anti-trump, or dare i say socdem trump) finally comes along and can't even be president (or can he?)

[-] sewer_rat_420@hexbear.net 24 points 6 days ago

My biggest fear is that the DSA triumphs in 2026 midterms (IDK what that would be, but probably 10-30 DSA or DSA-aligned "progressives" in congress is a possibility in 2026) and parlays that into winning the presidency with AOC, which would just be another weak, feckless and compromised presidency. The bare minimum for a 2028 presidency in my book would be Abolishing ICE, Arm Embargo on Israel, and Medicare 4 All, but beyond that we need serious investment in education, and some sort of re-education even. If we don't thoroughly de-nazify and also build up the alternatives to fascism, then Carlson/Fuentes 2032 or 2036 becomes a real possibility. But I don't have any confidence AOC would dismantle the surveillance and police state, and we will be right back where we are now, with an even more radical fascist coalition.

[-] LeeeroooyJeeenkiiins@hexbear.net 18 points 6 days ago

Arm Embargo on Israel

shit we should be embargoing Israel for everything, they should be getting the treatment Cuba is getting

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[-] Coolkidbozzy@hexbear.net 17 points 6 days ago

Eh I'd take it. It would be a menshevik vs bolshevik situation, really show people there is a farther-left group that is better

[-] sewer_rat_420@hexbear.net 20 points 6 days ago

Yeah, this is my position on DSA more broadly. I am not going to be upset when they win, but it is our duty to continue to push and not be complacent just because we get a socdem president and a bit of our social safety net back.

[-] DragonBallZinn@hexbear.net 15 points 6 days ago

As we said with Bernie…

Mamdani IS the compromise.

[-] LeeeroooyJeeenkiiins@hexbear.net 29 points 6 days ago

okay I said I'd never go to a protest but I think it'd be really funny to sit outside these with a giant guillotine and a sign labelling it "solution for bad landlords"

[-] Le_Wokisme@hexbear.net 18 points 6 days ago

that's not a protest, it's support

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[-] CornWoman@hexbear.net 28 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

"Bad landlords" pre-supposes that there's such thing as a "good landlord." Anyways, long live Comrade Zohran, great follower of Marxism-Leninism-Mao Zedong Thought!

[-] SerLava@hexbear.net 19 points 6 days ago

Chairmain Mao specifically accounted for good landlords. If you were a good landlord, your former tenants simply wouldn't shoot you in the head!

[-] larrikin99@hexbear.net 14 points 6 days ago

In all seriousness, total land reform wasn't what the cpc originally wanted. They sought moderate reforms in line with China developing capitalist productive forces. They sought to remove only abusive, reactionary landlords, but this meant peasants could only get land reform by accusing their landlords of being abusive reactionaries. The communist intelligentsia was unable to stifle the revolutionary peasant movement, and land reform took place at their pace.

[-] LeninWeave@hexbear.net 9 points 6 days ago

but this meant peasants could only get land reform by accusing their landlords of being abusive reactionaries

Somehow I doubt they peasants had to lie about that very often, lol.

[-] CoolerOpposide@hexbear.net 15 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Nobody is saying you can’t go there and say exactly that 👁️👁️

[-] deforestgump@hexbear.net 30 points 6 days ago
[-] SickSemper@hexbear.net 19 points 6 days ago

Mao’s policy notably only targeted “bad landlords”

[-] KobaCumTribute@hexbear.net 17 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

That's actually pretty accurate, and it wasn't so much "Mao's policy" as just what wound up happening as a result of peasant outrage mixed with suddenly being given agency and an ideological push to redress their personal grievances. It was as I understand limited specifically to the rural landlords who lived in or near their the villages their victims did, the people who'd most directly committed crimes against their tenants, while absentee landlords who lived in cities far from their estates were spared and often given deals where they willingly gave up their claims to their former lands in exchange for party membership and jobs as bureaucrats on account of the CPC of the early 50s being that desperate for literate workers that they made a lot of "oh, you can read? If you'll take this desk job doing paperwork and make a gesture of good faith by voluntarily giving up your capital and land, we're ready to forgive a whole lot of stuff you may or may not have done" concessions.

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[-] deforestgump@hexbear.net 12 points 6 days ago

Mao notably owned an iPhone.

[-] SickSemper@hexbear.net 20 points 6 days ago

Wow so he criticized capitalism but participated in it? Fucked up of him

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[-] Chana@hexbear.net 28 points 6 days ago

The OG struggle sessions invoked community justice. They did with the landlords what the community willed, particularly those who had previously been forced to serve them.

What will happen as a result of community vent sessions on "bad landlords"?

[-] purpleworm@hexbear.net 18 points 6 days ago

I don't think the landlords will be dealt with appropriately, but I think when you have the infrastructure to simply imprison them that's much better than having them tortured or killed. It's not really the best application of democratic principles to have what happens to a convicted person be decided by a group of their victims rather than have society broadly agree on standard procedures.

Obviously in Mao's case with the land reform, he did not have such luxuries and relied on the victims of the landlords and other locals not because of some sort of moralizing logic but because managing such an overwhelmingly large project with frequently no infrastructure to facilitate coordination beyond dirt roads is unwieldy unless you just leave it up to the peasants to basically do as they will.

If we imagined that Zohran was a Marxist and had control of the police, the thing to do certainly involves mass arrests of landlords. This action is useful regardless because it's not just about the landlords who get criticized (though them having their reputation publicly destroyed is a plus), but about using these stories as the basis for getting support for policies to prevent many common abuses and broadcasting quite loudly how past administrations allowed them to get away with such things and never bothered to ask people to publicly share their experiences like we see here, and how administrations in other cities are continuing to ignore such problems.

Ziohran Mossadani is bootlicking slime who does apologia for cops, but I think we should regard this campaign as potentially a good thing, though of course it depends on how Zohran and company actually administrates the campaign, since he certainly has shown himself as ready to squander potential for careerist reasons.

[-] Le_Wokisme@hexbear.net 10 points 6 days ago

If we imagined that Zohran was a Marxist and had control of the police, the thing to do certainly involves mass arrests of landlords. This action is useful regardless because it's not just about the landlords who get criticized (though them having their reputation publicly destroyed is a plus), but about using these stories as the basis for getting support for policies to prevent many common abuses and broadcasting quite loudly how past administrations allowed them to get away with such things and never bothered to ask people to publicly share their experiences like we see here, and how administrations in other cities are continuing to ignore such problems.

that "and" is very important. He'd need to do some serious purging to actually have control of the NYPD

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[-] Le_Wokisme@hexbear.net 14 points 6 days ago
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[-] Hestia@hexbear.net 30 points 6 days ago

Cool... Putting "Bad" in front of landlords is kinda redundant though. They're landlords FFS.

[-] Jabril@hexbear.net 32 points 6 days ago

Yeah this is the liberal line he tows. There must be good landlords, good cops, good capitalists, it's the bad ones we need to go after. It's how he won and also he could drop it now and would be even more popular, but I think he really believes it

[-] Wheaties@hexbear.net 32 points 6 days ago

Sure, but if he actually improves conditions for New York renters, then quibbling over language is a secondary concern.

[-] Jabril@hexbear.net 16 points 6 days ago

I'm more speaking to his earnestness as a socialist. Doing charity and being the best democrat is good for the short term material conditions of New York renters but it will inevitably need to go further than that to be more than a win for the bourgeois party. If he doesn't fully believe in socialist principles (knowing that literally all landlords and capitalists are truly bad and the problem), he won't go any farther than "most progressive Democrat" which serves the interest of Democrats more than anyone

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[-] AvocadoVapelung@hexbear.net 23 points 6 days ago

the manhattan event better be in central park

[-] invo_rt@hexbear.net 20 points 6 days ago

Peoples' Tribunals mao-aggro-shining

[-] spectre@hexbear.net 23 points 6 days ago

Zohran is a land of contrasts

[-] SexUnderSocialism@hexbear.net 18 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

The only kind of hearings I want are "speak bitterness" hearings, also known as the original struggle sessions. mao-shining

[-] Carl@hexbear.net 18 points 6 days ago

Can't wait to see this article in The Atlantic

Mamdani's Anti Landlord Struggle Sessions Call Back to Chinese Communist Cultural Revolution

[-] Ram_The_Manparts@hexbear.net 11 points 6 days ago
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