Zohran Maoist arc in 2026 challenge

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[–] 67 points 6 months ago (3 children)

I only see complaints about him on here but tbh he is approximately 1000% better and cooler than my current "liberal" mayor, for the public bathroom funding initiative alone.

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  • [–] 62 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    the maoist uprising against the landlords was the largest and most comprehensive proletarian revolution in history, and led to almost totally-equal redistribution of land among the peasantry

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  • [–] 55 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    you can't always get what you want stalin-cig

    but if you try sometimes i-voted

    you'll find hasan-ok-dude

    you get what you need mao-aggro-shining

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  • [–] 51 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    He was inside a slum on his first day as mayor, documenting the issues, and met with a tenant council. Politically I disagree with some of his positions of course, but he does really seem to care about especially the issue of rent and bad landlords. And its easy points to score with your constituents, no one likes their landlord.

    I am also excited that the DSA-NYC is still pushing for stuff, they are trying to have a huge rally in Albany in a couple weeks to push for funding the Zohr-genda (taxing the rich)

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    [–] 48 points 6 months ago

    good god, just offering a publicly supported platform for tenants to come together with grievances against landlords in the borough is some real shit.

    i bet the vibe will be electric.

    some real "We are the rhydo, kid. We're the fuel. We're the thing that explodes when there is too much friction in the air."

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  • [–] 47 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    Has he apologized for his tweet in sympathy for the cops that killed that guy having a mental episode in his own home, in front of his parents?

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    I did actually think it was possible that he gave a bad and inadequate apology, though I certainly was not meaning to ask if he seemed serious about making amends for his wrongdoing.

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  • [–] 38 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    he's not perfect but he's definitely laying an interesting pathway to follow

    the liberal trump (or anti-trump, or dare i say socdem trump) finally comes along and can't even be president (or can he?)

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  • [–] 24 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    My biggest fear is that the DSA triumphs in 2026 midterms (IDK what that would be, but probably 10-30 DSA or DSA-aligned "progressives" in congress is a possibility in 2026) and parlays that into winning the presidency with AOC, which would just be another weak, feckless and compromised presidency. The bare minimum for a 2028 presidency in my book would be Abolishing ICE, Arm Embargo on Israel, and Medicare 4 All, but beyond that we need serious investment in education, and some sort of re-education even. If we don't thoroughly de-nazify and also build up the alternatives to fascism, then Carlson/Fuentes 2032 or 2036 becomes a real possibility. But I don't have any confidence AOC would dismantle the surveillance and police state, and we will be right back where we are now, with an even more radical fascist coalition.

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  • [–] 17 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    Eh I'd take it. It would be a menshevik vs bolshevik situation, really show people there is a farther-left group that is better

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  • [–] 20 points 6 months ago

    Yeah, this is my position on DSA more broadly. I am not going to be upset when they win, but it is our duty to continue to push and not be complacent just because we get a socdem president and a bit of our social safety net back.

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  • [–] 30 points 6 months ago (4 children)

    okay I said I'd never go to a protest but I think it'd be really funny to sit outside these with a giant guillotine and a sign labelling it "solution for bad landlords"

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    Mao’s policy notably only targeted “bad landlords”

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  • [–] 17 points 6 months ago* (2 children)

    That's actually pretty accurate, and it wasn't so much "Mao's policy" as just what wound up happening as a result of peasant outrage mixed with suddenly being given agency and an ideological push to redress their personal grievances. It was as I understand limited specifically to the rural landlords who lived in or near their the villages their victims did, the people who'd most directly committed crimes against their tenants, while absentee landlords who lived in cities far from their estates were spared and often given deals where they willingly gave up their claims to their former lands in exchange for party membership and jobs as bureaucrats on account of the CPC of the early 50s being that desperate for literate workers that they made a lot of "oh, you can read? If you'll take this desk job doing paperwork and make a gesture of good faith by voluntarily giving up your capital and land, we're ready to forgive a whole lot of stuff you may or may not have done" concessions.

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  • [–] 30 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    Cool... Putting "Bad" in front of landlords is kinda redundant though. They're landlords FFS.

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  • [–] 32 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    Yeah this is the liberal line he tows. There must be good landlords, good cops, good capitalists, it's the bad ones we need to go after. It's how he won and also he could drop it now and would be even more popular, but I think he really believes it

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  • [–] 32 points 6 months ago (5 children)

    Sure, but if he actually improves conditions for New York renters, then quibbling over language is a secondary concern.

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  • [–] 16 points 6 months ago

    I'm more speaking to his earnestness as a socialist. Doing charity and being the best democrat is good for the short term material conditions of New York renters but it will inevitably need to go further than that to be more than a win for the bourgeois party. If he doesn't fully believe in socialist principles (knowing that literally all landlords and capitalists are truly bad and the problem), he won't go any farther than "most progressive Democrat" which serves the interest of Democrats more than anyone

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    [–] 29 points 6 months ago (6 children)

    The OG struggle sessions invoked community justice. They did with the landlords what the community willed, particularly those who had previously been forced to serve them.

    What will happen as a result of community vent sessions on "bad landlords"?

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  • [–] 19 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    I don't think the landlords will be dealt with appropriately, but I think when you have the infrastructure to simply imprison them that's much better than having them tortured or killed. It's not really the best application of democratic principles to have what happens to a convicted person be decided by a group of their victims rather than have society broadly agree on standard procedures.

    Obviously in Mao's case with the land reform, he did not have such luxuries and relied on the victims of the landlords and other locals not because of some sort of moralizing logic but because managing such an overwhelmingly large project with frequently no infrastructure to facilitate coordination beyond dirt roads is unwieldy unless you just leave it up to the peasants to basically do as they will.

    If we imagined that Zohran was a Marxist and had control of the police, the thing to do certainly involves mass arrests of landlords. This action is useful regardless because it's not just about the landlords who get criticized (though them having their reputation publicly destroyed is a plus), but about using these stories as the basis for getting support for policies to prevent many common abuses and broadcasting quite loudly how past administrations allowed them to get away with such things and never bothered to ask people to publicly share their experiences like we see here, and how administrations in other cities are continuing to ignore such problems.

    Ziohran Mossadani is bootlicking slime who does apologia for cops, but I think we should regard this campaign as potentially a good thing, though of course it depends on how Zohran and company actually administrates the campaign, since he certainly has shown himself as ready to squander potential for careerist reasons.

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  • [–] 11 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    If we imagined that Zohran was a Marxist and had control of the police, the thing to do certainly involves mass arrests of landlords. This action is useful regardless because it's not just about the landlords who get criticized (though them having their reputation publicly destroyed is a plus), but about using these stories as the basis for getting support for policies to prevent many common abuses and broadcasting quite loudly how past administrations allowed them to get away with such things and never bothered to ask people to publicly share their experiences like we see here, and how administrations in other cities are continuing to ignore such problems.

    that "and" is very important. He'd need to do some serious purging to actually have control of the NYPD

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    [–] 29 points 6 months ago* (2 children)

    "Bad landlords" pre-supposes that there's such thing as a "good landlord." Anyways, long live Comrade Zohran, great follower of Marxism-Leninism-Mao Zedong Thought!

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  • [–] 20 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    Chairmain Mao specifically accounted for good landlords. If you were a good landlord, your former tenants simply wouldn't shoot you in the head!

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  • [–] 14 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    In all seriousness, total land reform wasn't what the cpc originally wanted. They sought moderate reforms in line with China developing capitalist productive forces. They sought to remove only abusive, reactionary landlords, but this meant peasants could only get land reform by accusing their landlords of being abusive reactionaries. The communist intelligentsia was unable to stifle the revolutionary peasant movement, and land reform took place at their pace.

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  • [–] 23 points 6 months ago

    the manhattan event better be in central park

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  • [–] 23 points 6 months ago

    Zohran is a land of contrasts

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  • [–] 20 points 6 months ago

    Peoples' Tribunals mao-aggro-shining

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  • [–] 18 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

    The only kind of hearings I want are "speak bitterness" hearings, also known as the original struggle sessions. mao-shining

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  • [–] 18 points 6 months ago

    Can't wait to see this article in The Atlantic

    Mamdani's Anti Landlord Struggle Sessions Call Back to Chinese Communist Cultural Revolution

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  • [–] 11 points 6 months ago

    Bring on the People's Tribunals, comrade!

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