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submitted 3 days ago by veeesix@lemmy.ca to c/selfhosted@lemmy.world

cross-posted from: https://beehaw.org/post/24650125

Because nothing says "fun" quite like having to restore a RAID that just saw 140TB fail.

Western Digital this week outlined its near-term and mid-term plans to increase hard drive capacities to around 60TB and beyond with optimizations that significantly increase HDD performance for the AI and cloud era. In addition, the company outlined its longer-term vision for hard disk drives' evolution that includes a new laser technology for heat-assisted magnetic recording (HAMR), new platters with higher areal density, and HDD assemblies with up to 14 platters. As a result, WD will be able to offer drives beyond 140 TB in the 2030s.

Western Digital plans to volume produce its inaugural commercial hard drives featuring HAMR technology next year, with capacities rising from 40TB (CMR) or 44TB (SMR) in late 2026, with production ramping in 2027. These drives will use the company's proven 11-platter platform with high-density media as well as HAMR heads with edge-emitting lasers that heat iron-platinum alloy (FePt) on top of platters to its Curie temperature — the point at which its magnetic properties change — and reducing its magnetic coercivity before writing data.

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[-] irmadlad@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago
[-] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 days ago

That was my first USB thumb drive.

[-] irmadlad@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

IIRC that was 5 mb. It weighed about 2000 lbs

Fee-fi-fo-fum.

[-] Ferroto@lemmy.world 18 points 2 days ago

If you were to ask me a year ago I'd tell you that HDD's would be the next dead storage medium but now SSD's cost more then I spent on my rig and HDD's are pushing 140 TB's

[-] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 day ago

I just looked up prices for servers we sell out work.
They saw a price increase of 47%.
The SSDs and RAM saw an increase of about 25% and ~150% respectively.
Absolutely ludicrous and BS (ironically both the price and available stock increased. So it's just preying on the market instead of an actual shortage lol)

[-] filcuk@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 day ago

I wonder if tapes make any sort of 'comeback' to the consumer market.

[-] leftzero@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 days ago

In a pinch the drive can also double as a flywheel battery.

[-] FirmDistribution@lemmy.world 149 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

with optimizations that significantly increase HDD performance for the AI and cloud era

Can somebody do anything with a normal consumer in mind these days? 😭

[-] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 86 points 3 days ago

Not until somebody shuts off the investor money faucet for AI. Then they'll come crawling back — although inevitably not until after they go whining to all the world's governments about wanting a bailout.

But hey, look at the bright side. We've already had the cryptocurrency mining boom and bust, and "AI" boom and soon to be bust. There's still time for some idiot to invent the next tech scam fad which will conveniently require a shitload of hardware for no recognizably useful purpose.

[-] cecilkorik@piefed.ca 23 points 3 days ago

Then they’ll come crawling back — although inevitably not until after they go whining to all the world’s governments about wanting a bailout.

And don't forget the part where, whether they get a bailout or not, they'll still have to double the prices of everything to make up for all the money they lost on that stupid AI bubble exploding in their face (which all of us are somehow to blame for, obviously, which is why we have to pay them back for it)

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[-] mycodesucks@lemmy.world 35 points 3 days ago

No, and it's by design.

You're gonna lease a tablet and use cloud-based storage services and like it.

The dystopia is here.

[-] wewbull@feddit.uk 2 points 2 days ago

Hp is doing laptop rental for non-commercial customers only.

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[-] DonutsRMeh@lemmy.world 16 points 2 days ago

And how much will that cost? Sounds like something fantastic for my Jellyfin server. I’ll have all the 4k HDR I can get my hands on.

[-] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 days ago

I would not put 130TB on any one piece of hardware, because when it fails, it will be a very sad day.

[-] DonutsRMeh@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

Don’t even mention it. I have real world experience in that area 😂

[-] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 day ago

That's why this is perfect for a distributed array or as a data mass grave.
You don't really store anything in there that is needed often.

Guess why (deep-)archive S3 is so much cheaper than hot S3 storage.
That's a reason why.

[-] SpikesOtherDog@ani.social 5 points 1 day ago

This hardware is for those who are storing EB of data.

[-] recklessengagement@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago

Going by the usual trends of $20+/tb, I'd say. fuckin expensive

[-] DonutsRMeh@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

Very cheap. Just kidding. Fuck that shit

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[-] Agent641@lemmy.world 19 points 2 days ago

If you have to ask, you can't afford it 😭

[-] DonutsRMeh@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

Maybe I can. The only thing you know about me is my username 😂

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[-] MonkeMischief@lemmy.today 46 points 3 days ago

Okay cool, cool, so does this mean ridiculous data centers will use these things, and then can I get another 4TB RED for my NAS so I can fit my whole life on a mirrored total of 8TB without paying 8x what it's worth, please?

Thaaaaanks...

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[-] pound_heap@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 2 days ago

Does the increased density mean that the speed also goes up? It would be nice if a 7200 RPM drive could finally saturate SATA3 bandwidth.

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[-] Shady_Shiroe@lemmy.world 44 points 3 days ago

I just hope smaller sized drives become cheaper. The word "hope" is doing a lot of heavy lifting here.

[-] Supervisor194@lemmy.world 31 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Ten years from now...

Amazon search: "hard drive"

Result: 4TB $198

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[-] nuko147@lemmy.world 12 points 3 days ago

Whats the point when the prices for 4-8TB disks are stable the last 5 years? (I think that they are getting higher even...)

[-] Zetta@mander.xyz 11 points 3 days ago

The point is the need for more and more data storage is never going to stop.

[-] stressballs@lemmy.zip 6 points 2 days ago

Yep. It's absurd. Who spends that much on a 4TB?

[-] sefra1@lemmy.zip 9 points 3 days ago

The point is that 8TB are too small, and not enough for my anime.

[-] harambe69@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 days ago
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Holy fuck can you imagine how long it would take to re-stripe a failed drive in a z2 array 😭

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