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[–] 131 points 6 months ago

Oof. Kudos to Notepad++ for being up front with the details.

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  • [–] 61 points 6 months ago (15 children)

    China, Russia, the US, fucking Israel. They all piss me off so fucking much. Can't we live in a sane world just for a single fucking day?

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    [–] 52 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    Yikes... i guess i am confused though. What data was being sent through this channel? What did they get from people while it happened and why did it take 2 months past them stopping it to finally make a release? I love the app, but this sounds really bad.

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  • [–] 95 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    From my understanding: Basically the attackers could reply to your version check request (usually done automatically) and tell N++ that there were a new version available. If you then approved the update dialogue, N++ would download and execute the binary from the update link that the server sent you. But this didn't necessarily need to be a real update, it could have been any binary since neither the answer to the update check nor the download link were verified by N++

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  • [–] 16 points 6 months ago* (1 child)

    Thats what i was thinking, but there is no mention on if this did happen and if it did what was compromised or allowed to happen.

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  • [–] 19 points 6 months ago (1 child)
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    Expanding on this: the exploit was against their domain name, redirecting selected update requests away from the notepad++ servers. The software itself didn't validate that the domain actually points to notepad++ servers, and the notepad++ update servers would not see any information that would tell them what was happening.

    Likely they picked some specific developers with a known public IP, and only used this to inject those specific people with malware.

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  • [–] 15 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    So the solution would have been an SSL certificate check on the client side.

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  • [–] 12 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    Can't tell if that would have helped

    which could have allowed the malicious actors to redirect some of the traffic going to https://notepad-plus-plus.org/getDownloadUrl.php to their own servers

    They could have just piped the binaries though the same server since they had this level of access. They would have had months to figure it out.

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  • [–] 11 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    Oof, I thought it was just a DNS hijack. If they had access to the server, it's game over regardless.

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  • [–] 8 points 6 months ago

    That's what they say they rolled out, after: "Within Notepad++ itself, WinGup (the updater) was enhanced in v8.8.9 to verify both the certificate and the signature of the downloaded installer"

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  • [–] 13 points 6 months ago

    The previous release already fixed this, or evaded the issue.

    The channel was the update mechanism. Upon Notepad++ checking for updates, they were able to inject their own. So if you updated via the apps own update checker they could have misdirected you into installing something else or something modified.

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    [–] 25 points 6 months ago (4 children)

    So should we at least uninstall our current Notepad++ and then download a new version? What else should we do, the post really doesn’t offer any advice.

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  • [–] 16 points 6 months ago* (1 child)

    I don't think you'll need to uninstall. If I'm reading the article correctly, it looks like they plugged the hole in their update process by switching hosting providers to one that's even more hardened and secure. So requests from the updater should go to the correct place now and not the state-sponsored hacker.

    Then in about a month, the next version of notepad++ that is released will also properly validate/verify any downloaded update files from the server.

    You could also just disable the checks for updates from within the application too. Or better yet, use something like winget to handle the updates instead of the built-in updater.

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  • [–] 14 points 6 months ago

    The article literally states that should you download the latest version from their site directly and then use the installer to update manually. Who knows if those who were effected already could have something else compromising the update/install process. I wouldnt update from the built in updater until the new fix with certificate and signature verification is released.

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  • [–] 6 points 6 months ago*

    Yes, that's the safe way. Uninstall, download current version, install. That's it.

    Outside of being compromised already where you would have to notice and fix outside of notepad anyway. But that seems unlikely given the selective attack nature the hoster was able to confirm. If you'd want to cover that you would have to know and do a lot more.

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  • [–] 6 points 6 months ago

    I would just follow their advice, download the newest version from their site directly and use the new versions installer to update manually. I would probably do the same thing when the newest version with certificate and signature verification releases, after that I would assume you should be good to go. However its probably also worth scanning your system for malware just incase you updated during the time frame the attack was live.

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  • [–] 23 points 6 months ago (19 children)

    And work bosses saw a news story on this and banned the app outright :( can anyone suggest a replacement that is not paid and has features useful for searching lots of large logs files quickly for keywords?

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    [–] 16 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    If I recall correctly this is the second time this has happened to N++. Fool me once… can’t get fooled again.

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  • [–] 16 points 6 months ago

    So what malware got shipped?

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  • [–] 14 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    I would like to know starting from wich version should i be concerned. I haven't updated in a while i think.

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  • [–] 9 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    There were a lot of typos in the linked announcement.

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    [–] 8 points 6 months ago

    So that’s what the second plus includes….

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  • [–] 7 points 6 months ago

    This is why I don't update things that don't need updates. Untill I switched to Linux I had been using the same version for like a decade.

    Also I'd imagine the American government is doing the exact same shit. Or rather Israel is doing it in behalf of the American government

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