• Ford's CEO said Tesla's Cybertruck is for "Silicon Valley people" not "real people who do real work."
  • Jim Farley said Tesla's pickup truck won't compete with the F-150 Lightning.
  • Tesla is expected to release the EV pickup later this year, but it's been delayed several times.

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[–] 77 points 3 years ago (9 children)

It's been my experience that F-150 owners are arrogant, southern-fried buttholes, but anyone who owns a Cybertruck is probably worse, just by merit of being associated with Elon Musk.

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  • [–] 17 points 3 years ago (7 children)

    Lots of people drive Tesla, I’m not gonna judge them for Musk.

    But if this turns into another oversized seppo tank on our roads I’ll blame them for buying it.

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  • [–] 62 points 3 years ago (22 children)

    Because "real work" trucks have 4 doors and a short bed, right?

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  • [–] 38 points 3 years ago (15 children)

    I've not seen somebody driving a ford truck made in the last decade that was doing "Real" work. this includes construction contractors. most the working trucks are Chevies or Toyos. though I'm also seeing an increasing number of Nissan (the NV's)

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  • [–] 18 points 3 years ago (13 children)

    I have. A lot of pickup trucks, for example, are built out of F450s. Old F450s.

    The F-150 line is almost entirely vanity vehicles, though, and I have never seen a Lightning on the road but am sure I do not exclude it from my judgment.

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  • [–] 11 points 3 years ago (10 children)

    The Lightnings actually have a reasonable use case as short range delivery fleet trucks. They're not going to go very far but they will move materials across town super cheaply and relatively eco-friendly - provided you have the startup capital to buy a fleet of Lightnings and the charger hookups.

    I would not buy one as a consumer daily driver though.

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  • [–] 4 points 3 years ago (2 children)

    The transits are a much better platform/form factor for that use case, and probably would have been easier to modify into an EV.

    The current iteration has too many compromises as a “consumer” vehicle while still pandering to the idea of being a working truck. A “man’s truck”, if you will. Let’s be honest here, they’re not advertising it to companies. They’re advertising it to men- the kind of men that need to remind the world that they’re men. kind of like how they used to pitch SUVs, at least until suvs became the go-to family car,

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  • [–] 6 points 3 years ago

    The only time I've seen it was when it was a company-issued truck lol

    If I could get a new electric truck for less than $60,000 I'd use it though, because I get free charging and I could use the truck to make enough money to cover half of the payments. Just my personal situation.

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    [–] 23 points 3 years ago

    “‘I’ make trucks”

    Yeah, sure lmao

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  • [–] 20 points 3 years ago*

    He's not really wrong. A Ford pickup can be beat to hell, and u can source just about any part on the truck within a 20 minute drive. When your pay relies on your transportation and hauling, time is money. A truck made of a giant piece of sheetmetal and something that needs to go back to Tesla for any issue won't cut it.

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  • [–] 18 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    I sure hope any of these inexpensive minitruck brands, especially all-electric ones, crack into the US market at some point.

    Such ridiculousness, the arms race of ever-bigger "light" trucks that have double cabs and short beds. I cannot understand why any tradie would get a pickup over a van with a roof rack.

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  • [–] 16 points 3 years ago (3 children)

    I hate how normal large vehicles like trucks and SUVs have become here in the US. Especially because 90% of people who buy them don't actually need them. I see so many big stupid vehicles all over the place with a single person just going to the grocery store.

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    [–] 16 points 3 years ago (2 children)

    Yeah I mean 90% of the time, you’re not doing that. Because no shit.

    So don't buy a truck? Admit it, it's just compensating for your insecurities. You do not need a truck. Just rent one for the 2 times a year you might maybe need one, then you can stop driving up prices for people who actually need one.

    I'm really annoyed that status seekers like you are providing such an overwhelming market incentive that Ford doesn't even have a 2-door electric truck on the market. They're all 4-door because it's 99% familes who want an SUV, but more manly looking.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    then you can stop driving up prices for people who actually need one.

    Yeah that's not really how that works LOL. I'm all for people not driving trucks, but if they stopped, that would make them MORE expensive. It's simple economies of scale. The more they make, the less each individual unit costs.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 years ago

    People who don't need trucks but want them anyway are the main force driving what types of trucks go to market. If it weren't for that performative nonsense, automakers would go back to their primary market: practical work vehicles, without all the family suv bells and whistles. Therefore, cheaper.

    All trucks are not built the same, that's my point. I want a truck that's a truck, not a minivan masquerading as a truck.

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  • [–] 16 points 3 years ago (3 children)

    I hate Tesla now but that is a shit comment. It’s like when people say “real America” is in the farm as if people in cities - where most Americans live - are worthless.

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  • [–] 7 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    From the MKBHD review of the F-150 Lightning that I saw, Chris Farley's cousin may be right. The F-150 Lightning seems designed to act as a giant mobile battery to power a tradesman's tools while on the job and seems overall designed to support a Contractor on the job. Nothing has been reported of the Cybertruck where it can do the same.

    The Cybertruck looks and feels like a status symbol.

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  • [–] 15 points 3 years ago (5 children)

    It's crazy that I live in a world where I'm rooting for Ford, of all things.

    The Ford Maverick is actually a step in the right direction though. It's got a bed and it's relatively affordable. A lot of small contractors don't need giant jacked up V8s.

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  • [–] 9 points 3 years ago (4 children)

    I like the F150 but when the Ford CEO says "I make trucks for real people who do real work," as a "non-real" person who "doesn't do real work as I don't need a truck", well, he can fuck right off. What an asshole.

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  • [–] 18 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    I think the point still stands: people who buy trucks want to believe they can do real work, kind of like the fantasy of an SUV as a rugged vehicle even though their buyers typically treat them like street cars.

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  • [–] 6 points 3 years ago

    Well, you're right, that guy is an asshole. But he also makes a point, namely that there is no person in the world with a reason to purchase a Cybertruck other than just to jerk off Elongated Muskrat a bit more. It doesn't do anything practical. Even someone with an F150 or a Ram 2500, while yes they do generally own a parking lot princess, it can do truck stuff in a pinch. It has a bed and a tailgate and it can haul a trailer. Cybertruck can maybe haul a trailer but it isn't going to do anything else practical that a Ford won't. You'll never catch a contractor driving a Cybertruck. You will find them driving an F150.

    Point is, he's not saying you aren't real, he's saying the hypothetical person that has a valid use case for a Cybertruck isn't real. If someone is going out to buy a truck to perform work they aren't looking at Tesla.

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  • [–] 14 points 3 years ago

    I still can't believe they're trying to make this fucking abomination Elon shit out in 2 seconds in Blender after he couldn't open Solidworks.

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  • [–] 11 points 3 years ago

    Very few newer full size trucks ever get used for "real" work..... Because they're so freaking expensive. Sure, some do, but that would be the big contractors who have a fleet of work trucks and so on. Regular guys will beat on the 15 year old stuff. Because they can afford to fix it if they have to.

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  • [–] 11 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    And for people who do no work but want to waste space in your local city

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  • [–] 7 points 3 years ago

    Wow, didn’t know the ceo is making all those trucks by himself!

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  • [–] 6 points 3 years ago (8 children)

    If we're being real, neither truck is for people who do real work.

    When it's 40 below out and your truck needs to go all day because you're at a work site and it's the only place to warm up in between getting some critical piece of equipment back up and running, a battery that's so dead it needs a 600V charger for a few hours just to get home isn't going to cut it.

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  • [–] 6 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    If it's 40 below out, the vast majority of outside workers should be not working. The vast majority of work that could use a truck is work that isn't going to frequently (or ever) encounter that kind of temperature range. A 600V DCFC is going to charge either of those trucks quickly in the majority of scenarios.

    Most truck owners aren't people doing "truck work" anyway, though. They own a truck as a public facing part of their personality. It's virtue signalling.

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    [–] 6 points 3 years ago

    Ford Trucks are for "real people who do real work"
    Most popular car in America is the F-150 and mostly used to carry three grocery bags at most

    Classic Ford.

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