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[–] 84 points 2 years ago (1 child)

English language got it backwards. German is correct.

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  • [–] 52 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    The real trouble with learning most languages outside of English, is in English, we have a very casual way of approaching our own language. No one speaks with perfect grammar, and slang is extremely commonplace. This is great for English learners, because as long as you get most of the words out, everyone will understand what you meant. In German, if you don't speak it with utmost clarity and if you don't 100% nail the word order, people will look at you as if you have a learning disability.

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  • [–] 26 points 2 years ago

    Probably doesn't help English is a lingua franca. It's not just the native English speakers that use and change the language, especially in the age of internet, but everyone that knows it as a second language, which includes a significant chunk of the human population.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 years ago

    German actually has more freedom in word order within a sentence.

    Ich gehen nachher noch zum Laden.

    Nachher gehe ich noch zum Laden.

    Zum Laden gehe ich nachher noch.

    Zum Laden gehe ich noch nachher.

    And slang, like every language has slang. "Kommst du Fußball?" Some people will sneer at it, some use it every day. Or the shortening of word endings (neben ->nem')(kannst du -> kannste)

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  • [–] 37 points 2 years ago

    Quick Google shows English changed it at some point. From Middle English wer, were, from Old English wer (“man”), from Proto-Germanic *weraz, from Proto-Indo-European *wiHrós (“man, freeman”).

    https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/wer

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  • [–] 29 points 2 years ago (13 children)

    For me it was der, das, and die

    I don't care what that stupid green owl thinks, I'm not gonna learn three different words for "the"

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  • [–] 12 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    It's not that hard the article corresponds to the gender of the noune like "der Mann" for male, "die Frau" for female or "das Brot" for neutral. Oh and there are 500 exceptions to that rule, because why should natural be easy and follow a comprehensive set of rules.

    Most confused words: "der Bus" (the bus, clearly male...) and "das Mädchen"(the girl, because girls are definitely not female...)

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    [–] 25 points 2 years ago* (2 children)

    I learned Dutch before I started learning German (having lived in The Netherlands for almost a decade) and they're quite close as languages go (at least for somebody whose mother-tongue is a romance language) so that was pretty useful, but the one thing that really got me a lot in the beginning is that in German, "wie" means "how" but in Dutch "wie" means "who" (and both words sound exactly the same), so I would hear the very common German greeting "wie geht's" (how's it going) and would translate it as "who goes", and even after knowing the meaning properly it would trip me since the mental "circuitry" doing the translation seemed to be the instinctive one I had developed for Dutch.

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  • [–] 23 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    It also helps if one doesn't try to pronounce German as if it was English 😈

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    [–] 21 points 2 years ago* (1 child)

    Wait until you see that "see" is lake, and "meer" is sea. It gets me every time as a Dutchman. In Dutch "zee" is sea and "meer" is lake.

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  • [–] 12 points 2 years ago* (2 children)

    Not always true. Baltic sea is "Ostsee" (East Sea) and North Sea is "Nordsee". Deap sea is "Hohe See" etc. Mediterranean is "Mittelmeer" though..

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  • [–] 15 points 2 years ago

    Warum? WARUM?*

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  • [–] 15 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    French - dessous (below) and dessus (above). Utterly indistinguishable for a non-native of course

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  • [–] 14 points 2 years ago

    Can't forget that was means what! Was ist das? is one of the few phrases I can remember from my two semesters of German approximately 20 years ago.

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  • [–] 14 points 2 years ago

    Dunno if someone already mentioned it, but good luck with "umfahren". Depending on the pronunciation you either mean drive over someone/thing or drive around someone/thing lol.

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  • [–] 13 points 2 years ago* (2 children)

    Wieso/Weshalb/Warum = Why

    That's why

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    [–] 12 points 2 years ago

    Wait until you get to the indefinite articles.

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  • [–] 12 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Hmmmm weird, I know both languages but I never considered that. The See/Meer being Lake/Sea situation is much more confusing to me, especially since it's the inverse in Dutch.

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    [–] 11 points 2 years ago

    Wos hoast g'sacht?

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  • [–] 11 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Does this mean that a werewolf is just a whowolf in German?

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  • [–] 17 points 2 years ago (12 children)

    A werewolf in German is a Werwolf. Wer from the germanic word from man and wolf.

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  • [–] 8 points 2 years ago

    Der Werwolf

    Ein Werwolf eines Nachts entwich von Weib und Kind und sich begab an eines Dorfschullehrers Grab und bat ihn: Bitte, beuge mich!

    Der Dorfschulmeister stieg hinauf auf seines Blechschilds Messingknauf und sprach zum Wolf, der seine Pfoten geduldig kreuzte vor dem Toten:

    „Der Werwolf“ – sprach der gute Mann, „des Weswolfs, Genitiv sodann, dem Wemwolf, Dativ, wie man’s nennt, den Wenwolf, – damit hat’s ein End.“

    Dem Werwolf schmeichelten die Fälle, er rollte seine Augenbälle. Indessen, bat er, füge doch zur Einzahl auch die Mehrzahl noch!

    Der Dorfschulmeister aber mußte gestehn, daß er von ihr nichts wußte. Zwar Wölfe gäb’s in großer Schar, doch „Wer“ gäb’s nur im Singular.

    Der Wolf erhob sich tränenblind – er hatte ja doch Weib und Kind!! Doch da er kein Gelehrter eben, so schied er dankend und ergeben.

    Christian Morgenstern

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    [–] 10 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    deal with it, English speakers friends.

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    [–] 9 points 2 years ago* (1 child)

    The Proto-Germanic words these both derived from are hwar (where) and hwas (who). English clearly stayed closer to hwar, but both neither English nor German kept close to hwas.

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    [–] 8 points 2 years ago*

    Americans when they discover that languages evolved in seperate directions:

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  • [–] 5 points 2 years ago (5 children)

    I've read about people's difficulties learning German. From what I understand every grammatical rule has so many exceptions it just as well not be a rule.

    Then theres English, with "I before E, except after C." Weird.

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