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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (9 children)

Its a bad marketing campaign because it is easily turned into threads like this. Also, I have no idea if USA Today is good or not (I genuinely have never even thought about it).

But it is worth understanding. News outlets need to get funding from somewhere. Some are state funded and I should not need to explain why that introduces biases. Others take massive sponsorship deals from companies and ensure that John Oliver will always have something to talk about. And others run ads to varying degrees of curation.

The last option is subscriptions and those are few and far between.

Its more or less the same thing we saw with ads in general over the 00s. More and more people learned how to block ads so more and more websites needed to add obnoxious flash based ads and insane uses of javascript and so forth to get any impressions. And fewer and fewer "good" companies wanted to advertise to adblock heavy audiences which led to more and more trojans and so forth. Which leads to more and more ad blockers and...

In the case of news media? We mostly see this manifest as less investigative journalism and more listicles and "clickbait" articles because those at least get the facebook crowd to click.

So it is very much worth looking in to more permissive blocklists and even permitlists. Block tracking cookies because fuck that shit. But permit sites that you "trust" to have reasonable ads and look in to finer grain blocklists that still allow the actual ads to be displayed, even if they aren't the ones based on Amazon figuring out you have a foot fetish.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Even though I'm probably not reading it enough to be worth it I pay a yearly online-subscription to one of the newspapers that gained my trust with good investigative pieces in the past.

If everyone was just consuming for free then a newspaper needs to either be heavily funded by a really wealthy person that pays them (and in turn makes it less likely that said newspaper will report against people like that) or the newspaper needs to sell ad-space. So if you are consuming for free AND blocking ads on a website then you are only costing that website money - and in case of newspapers that's not a good thing since it ensures that only those that are publicly funded or funded by billionaires will survive "almost unchanged" while the rest will try to get as populist as possible to the the most amount of clicks to increase their ad-revenue

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (12 children)

I agree that state sponsored media has pitfalls but I never understood this appeal to “unbiased” media. It doesn’t exist because bias can’t be removed from humans.

I always ask 1 question and ask for 1 example here:

  1. When did WWII start? If things are objectively true and we expect historical works/statements to lack bias then this should be pretty simple.

  2. Do you have an example of an objective or unbiased media outlet? A writer? A single article?

This isn’t a dig at you. I just think this is a very broad social issue. Objectivity is a myth. We should recognize biases and account the best we can but “just the facts” reporting just doesn’t exist and never has. People demanding objectivity are often using it as a cudgel in defense of their argument. Take your more vocal folks on the right for instance. They claim “bias” whenever they don’t like something, and “telling it like it is” when it’s “their team.”

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Objectivity is a myth.

It's not so much a myth, as an unobtainable goal that should be strived for. Like perfection. One can never be perfect, but one can always be better. There are such things as facts, and accuracy in describing them.

To say objectivity is a myth, seems to suggest nobody has any responsibility to try to accurately represent any facts. If someone claims blue light has a wavelength of 150nm, is that a perfectly valid opinion? Do lies exist?

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Just disable JS if you are going to read texts.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (6 children)

I thought "whitelist" got cancelled for being racist? I distinctly remember being forced to rename everything to "IP Allowlist" and having to rename all my branches to "main" from "master". Jenkins is 3rd party software, so it still has slaves... 😂

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It did, and I was also doing that in some of our software in a previous job. Other terms we had to stop using were black sheep, white washing, and even gorilla.

https://www.vice.com/en/article/v7dd3d/we-need-to-stop-saying-blacklist-and-whitelist

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How much have you been drinking today, my friend?

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I wouldn't visit these sites if you paid me. Much less forced me to watch ads.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Read as giving them ad revenue allows them to write without doing sponsored articles

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

I wonder which content blocker you're using, because with uBlock Origin (with a fairly aggressive config and custom blocklists) I do not get that "disable adblock" pop up.

Not like I'd visit this site at all, I just tried to see if I could create a uBO filter for you to remove the paywall.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

Free speech doesn't mean a compelled audience.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

Just because you can say it doesn't mean I have to listen.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Reminds me of Microsoft's "1,000,000 PCs can't be wrong" or whatever it was when they started pushing windows 10 to 7 users

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

If you’re trying to get paid based one someone’s views or clicks, it’s not free.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Makes sense lol

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

wow, the balls of the folk who came up with this 🤡

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Ummm... That's the wrong freedom for them to be trying to invoke. They have their own. It's called Freedom of the Press. But they don't seem to want to invoke that one when they know it is bullshit.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

This might be a mildly infuriating moment

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Free speech also entails how willingly you are to put that speech out there. If you want to cover it with a paywall of any sort, you are most welcome to do that. Keep in mind that free speech and its actions also have consequences. If your content is good enough, people might pay to see it. Free market and all that.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Free speech for corporations and advertisers. For users is the paywall as adblocker. For this screenshot, Memes is a better place.

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