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[-] cfgaussian@lemmygrad.ml 24 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Nah, they already went mask off in 2022 when they decided to start praising literal swastika-tatooed, sieg-heiling Nazis as "brave freedom fighters". This is just more par for the course after they also celebrated Al-Qaeda headchoppers taking over a country.

[-] demerit@lemmygrad.ml 20 points 1 month ago

I mean wasnt the Ukraine-Russia war and the Gaza Genocide not enough mask off?

[-] dmnknf@lemmygrad.ml 14 points 1 month ago

Should be, but as a third world citizen who lived in Europe for a couple of years I doubt it... Communists in Europe are just so limited, they can't understand what we live in the global south

[-] Saymaz@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Most of them overlook the simple fact (or probably just don't wanna acknowledge) that the prices of goods in the first world will go up if the material conditions and in these overexploited countries in the imperial periphery improve.

[-] PunkMonk@lemmygrad.ml 14 points 1 month ago

I mean, it depends what your definition of leftist is, all the communists I know here in the UK have been very much against the invasion.

[-] 201dberg@lemmygrad.ml 21 points 1 month ago

Seriously. Can we stop using "western left" to mean fucking liberals? Cause that's what these people are. That's who is saying this shit. Not anyone with an actual leftist ideology. It's like we just decided there two different meaning for "leftist" just because there's so few of them in the west. Liberals aren't left. Like what are we supposed to call actual "leftists" in the west then? If someone has the same ideals as an "international leftists" and is in the west, what the fuck are they? Just a leftist? A leftist that exists in the west? It's getting very tiring. If someone is spouting liberal nonsense and calls themselves a leftist, then they are an idiot and/or lying.

[-] cfgaussian@lemmygrad.ml 17 points 1 month ago

This is why i have mostly stopped using the term leftist and now just distinguish between liberals and socialists. The two are fundamentally incompatible and so should not be lumped in together. It is much clearer what is meant when we say socialist as opposed to the vague "leftist" label. (And by socialist i mostly mean communist, but socialist is just a more palatable term for the normies, and since the goal of socialism is communism anyway i just use the two fully interchangeably in casual discourse.)

[-] 201dberg@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 1 month ago

Yeah that's actually fair.

[-] demerit@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 1 month ago

They usually mean breadtube-adjacent leftsphere celebs (Mamdani, Hasan Abi, Miss Rachel, TrueAnon, etc...)

[-] spheresickle@lemmygrad.ml 10 points 1 month ago

to be fair to hasan, he fully condemned the invasion and didnt call maduro a dictator

[-] cfgaussian@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 1 month ago

I mean, "Breadtube" has literally been proven to be astroturfed by intelligence agencies (see Grayzone reporting on MI6 funding popular Breadtubers), sooo...

[-] Saymaz@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 1 month ago

Google the term, "Westen left ideologies." I don't think a principled communist is a western leftist.

[-] p0ntyp00l@lemmygrad.ml 10 points 1 month ago

i feel like we do this every single year

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