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[–] 177 points 10 months ago (19 children)

First: It's funny, because it is happening to Russians

Second: It's fucking scary, because it can happen everywhere. Fuck cars that rely on digital services.

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    [–] 115 points 10 months ago (11 children)

    first they disabled Russian porsches and I didn't care because I am not a russian owner of a porsche.

    then they came for Ukrainian tractors and I didn't care because I am not an Ukrainian owner of a tractor.

    then step by step everything was digitally locked and I owned nothing and I was not really happy.

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  • [–] 28 points 10 months ago (5 children)

    Just got a dishwasher and it doesn't even have an app. How can that be?

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  • [–] 13 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    Just got a toilet and it doesn’t even have an app. How can that be?

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    [–] 43 points 10 months ago (25 children)

    [...] and what owners can do next.

    Sell their Porsche and buy a car that can't be locked remotely?

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  • [–] 33 points 10 months ago (19 children)

    In 2025? Is that even a thing?

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  • [–] 5 points 10 months ago (6 children)

    One way to tell: disable the cellular modem in your car and see if it still operates.

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  • [–] 9 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    This assumes there’s a user accessible option to disable it.

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  • [–] 9 points 10 months ago

    I assumed it's not a option, so I took the suggestion to mean "physically disable" the device. Modern cars have a number of integrated computers and they rarely serve individual purposes, but there's a good chance there's an external antenna near/in a window. Granted, I don't have any vehicles with cell service, so I could be wrong. I do own a drill though

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  • [–] 4 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    I took the question initially in jest, then sat back and thought about it. fuck.

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    [–] 21 points 10 months ago (11 children)

    I feel like I got my car at the perfect time:

    It has Android Auto and CarPlay, and it's a manual so there's no way for it to turn on or off remotely.

    Now I just have to make sure it survives until I die.

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  • [–] 12 points 10 months ago* (10 children)

    It's a voluntary anti-theft measure I believe. Prevents it from being started without the owner's consent. Which immobilizers are also supposed to do, but we all know how well those work.

    If I owned a Porsche in Russia, I would also get something like that tbh. Luckily I don't live in Russia, nor do I have a Porsche anymore and mine was too old for this kinda shit anyway

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  • [–] 21 points 10 months ago (4 children)

    Vehicle Tracking System (VTS) — a security module designed to prevent theft but now shutting down cars unexpectedly.

    Also, what a strangely written article.

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  • [–] 7 points 10 months ago

    Remember when they started this with games? It would phone home every time you started it up and make sure your license was valid.

    And then companies stopped supporting the game or went out of business. And all of a sudden no one could play those games anymore.

    Now they're doing it with cars. How long until that expensive car you bought is no longer supported and you have to upgrade to the new model?

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    [–] 15 points 10 months ago

    Maybe Russia started jamming satellite signals and did this to themselves.

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  • [–] 9 points 10 months ago

    And this is why I will never own a vehicle manufactured after 2006.

    I have just too little control with newer vehicles, be it having to auth with the mothership with every repair I do at home just to get it to start up, or even failing to start up in the first place when the mothership could not be contacted.

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  • [–] 8 points 10 months ago

    Not only due (or probably not even because of) Satellite system failure.

    In order to fight drones flying over the border from Ukraine, Russia implemented new restrictions to cellular connections. From like last 2 weeks they made so that when a sim card that enters russian border, it will be denied cellular connection for 24 hours. This also include russian sim cards that have been not connected to russian cellular network for over 72 hours.

    Almost every modern car today has a sim that communicates with servers all the time. It is just that Porsche also has this feature that can track car remotely and immobilize on demand. It utilizes this type of sim card. Porsche itself has nothing to do with why they are bricked. It is a byproduct of russian attempts at preventing drone attacks which backfires spectacularly.

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  • [–] 7 points 10 months ago

    Good thing this is a completely optional "feature" that I'd never pay for

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  • [–] 7 points 10 months ago

    "smart" cars

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  • [–] 6 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    Well, it's because Russia is jamming GPS signal, it affects planes, cars, everything relying on GPS.

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  • [–] 6 points 10 months ago* (7 children)

    Why not do cars need internet access in order to start?

    I understand having auxiliary services the network connected but surely the failure mode should just be an error on the screen but otherwise the car should still function. It's not like operating without internet access is dangerous or anything.

    Also, why don't we just do that, cut Russias internet access, it seems like it would cause utter chaos.

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