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[–] [email protected] 62 points 1 year ago (2 children)

v2.0 is all well and good, but it's still 3 years after I bought it, not giving them the benefit of the doubt next time.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 year ago (4 children)

The game is so much better now but it still falls short IMO, and it'll never live up to its original promise. Plus, the game was soooo bad on release that they decided to kill all future DLC except for this one. Which means the game is never getting another major update, no more fixes and no more work towards delivering on the original vision.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The notion that this game was supposed to have a GTA Online-style multiplayer mode is LAUGHABLE

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Forgot about that. Yeah. That was beyond a pipe dream.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think once the money men at CDPR see how much PL made they will reconsider their original approach to future DLC.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

I think it's probably already too late. They've laid off staff and winded down development already. Usually DLCs are developed in tandem the game and other DLCs. They'd have to make a big change to make a new DLC now, and it would take a long time for it to come out.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

Plus, the game was soooo bad on release that they decided to kill all future DLC except for this one.

The reason they scrapped plans for further DLC is largely to do with the fact that CDPR is dropping RED Engine and using Unreal going forward, and they don't want to spend all the time and resources building new content for an engine that they're not going to continue supporting for much longer.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I am sorry but with PL and 2.0 it’s beyond great imo. Loving every second of it, they fixed and improved so much it feels like an entirely different game to me.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

For what it’s worth, it’s almost never worth it to give any company “the benefit of the doubt”. For single player games, there’s pretty much no reason to play it right when it releases unless you’re impatient. I choose to think of the games release date as a beta release. If I’m super excited, I may choose to play a game in beta but usually I’ll wait for the final release. Then when all the initial issues (which all games have, just some way more than others) have been fixed, I’ll consider the game actually released and buy it for a fraction of the initial cost.

I don’t know that I’ve played a single game that’s released this year yet. And those games will still be just as good next year (likely better) for less cost.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It’s 2023, you can just get a refund on steam now.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

Only if you played less than 2 hours (or if you're lucky and managed to convince steam support) which isn't really enough to test a bigger game. Hell in some games, that's pretty much only cutscenes and tutorials.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not buying a game on release wins yet again.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

For real. I don't understand why people keep doing that.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

I waited to buy it until just before 2.0 came out. I finished the main campaign and just started over to try a different build and play through Phantom Liberty. There is still some jank, but I love the game play and I find the combat surprisingly engaging.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

The preview pic tho

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Pretty much, they've had one great game, one game they fucked up and few relatively unknown games. And, as the article says, Geralt's story is over, so they have to start from scratch there as well. I wish them luck because I still quite like them, but it's definitely gonna be a tough road.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They also did the closest thing to a Steam competitor and brought a lot of popular-but-unavailable games back to the light of day via doing legwork to track rights down and pick up the right to re-release them.

That may not be game development, other than in putting together compatibility software and some client software, but it was successful. Probably had a bigger impact than The Witcher 3.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If I'm not mistaken, they bought GOG, they didn't make it.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

The Witcher 2 was highly praised alone with the Witcher 3.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I honestly don't want to replay the main story up to a certain point to access the DLC...I kinda wish it was like Blood & Wine where I can start the DLC directly.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago

you can, there is an option for it

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

As the other person said, you can directly start there. I was skeptical and started fresh but once I made it through the DLC I realized I wouldn't have missed anything if I had used the option to start right from the DLC.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Same. I started playing on my PS4 when it came out, then restarted on my XsX when it was actually playable.

I'm really burned out on the game and really don't feel like starting a third playthrough.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Good news! It has the same option as b&w

[–] [email protected] -5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

So can anyone spoil it for me? Can V survive?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

Frankly I think whether or not V survives is largely a headcanon thing. Maybe you head off into the sunset with the Caldos and find help. Maybe you knock over the space casino and buy yourself something like the Relic with all of your stupid new wealth. Maybe you turn into an AI and become a ghost in the machine.

Or maybe you develop natural charisma and an impressive cock, who knows.

Point is they left it vague and uncertain on purpose in several of the good (ish) endings. I get why, but it always felt kinda cheap to me. But it IS a noir story and those aren't known for fairy tale endings.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

SPOILERS BELOW

Yes, if you side against Songbird, NUSA honors the agreement to get you treatment. It leaves V with neural degradation and unable to ever use cyberware again, and in a coma for 2 years but gives you the only ending with a confirmation that V survives

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes, but you could in the original game too.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Not really. The best outlook V has in the original endings is that they have 6 months left to live, but the ending cuts off just before starting what is likely to be V's final mission.