submitted 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) by to c/news@hexbear.net
 

While I hope that I’m wrong, there is at least a very real possibility that in the immediate future, the US empire will launch an unprovoked and immoral attack on a socialist state (Venezuela) in order to secure that country’s resources. It is understandable that, should that happen, many of you will be feeling extreme anger at these acts and post about it here.

In light of that, the admins and mods of Hexbear figured we’d remind everyone:

No fedposting

That includes, but is not limited to, talking about threats of violence against people or groups of people; including if you add “in minecraft” or “[redacted]”.

We really don’t need to come under fed scrutiny (or worse). Ultimately, fed posting doesn’t even serve much purpose other than “blowing off steam” – and that comes at the cost of potentially putting the site and its users in legal jeopardy. There are more productive ways to vent that anger.

Also, if you end up having a comment removed for fed posting, I’d urge you to not take it personally.

And saying this as a user, not an admin: a little revolutionary optimism never hurt anyone. We must have clear eyes about reality, but as socialists we also should have faith in the power of people to resist oppression.

(Edited for grammar)

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[–] 69 points 10 months ago (3 children)

the safest most effective way to fedpost is by writing your fedposts down on a piece of paper and then sending that directly to the president via the USPS

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    [–] 64 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    death to whom exactly is left as an exercise for the reader.

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    [–] 48 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    Death, death Incremental change by committee over decades to the IDF!

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    [–] [S] 41 points 10 months ago*

    I should add this isn’t based on any specific comments or posts here, just a proactive statement in case something terrible like I mentioned above does happen.

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  • [–] 32 points 10 months ago (32 children)

    Yeah, as much as it pains me to say it's probably best to protect comrades on here and stop them from fedposting and getting sent to fucking CECOT. I know HB made a name for itself from reddit by allowing much looser speech but you have to weigh if it's worth it to fly off the cuff and wish death on someone in the moment, or have an ounce of protection to stop someone from ruining their life.

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  • [–] 28 points 10 months ago (17 children)

    I think it would be good to set some real parameters here on what makes a comment a fedpost. There's a difference between wishing death on someone and making an explicit threat to a specific individuals life (aka actionable threat). Can I not say I wish Netanyahu would just fucking die? Can I not say I wish Trump were killed by a foreign state power? Can I not say I wish Gavin Newsom never makes it to the 2028 election due to an unforseen accident? Seriously, I'm not saying those things, really, I'm only asking if I can. illegal-to-say

    The heinous stuff we said on reddit that made us notorious was "slave owners should be killed." That's not fedposting. I really fucking hope we will always get to say that and things like it, even things like as mentioned Death to America. I can't imagine HB ever mandating that we can't, at least not until the fascists cracking down all over the net really kicks into high gear. But at that point, I feel like it wouldn't really be Hexbear anymore.

    It really does come down to keeping this place as a site and community safe and functional and even more so keeping the users here safe in general. So clear boundaries on what is and what isn't considered fedposting would be an important thing for us to establish, and it might even need to change as the slide into more overt fascism continues apace.

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  • [–] 23 points 10 months ago (13 children)

    Agreed but I never thought Hexbear would have done something as cringe as banning the "Lionization of Luigi". Not Hexbear's finest hour.
    And that rule still stands. cat-confused

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  • [–] 12 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    Yeah pretty much, like saying "Death to the IDF" I'd imagine is fine, or Death to America, but I'd say no to "someone should shoot Elon Musk in the face with a high powered rifle", if that makes sense.

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  • [–] 16 points 10 months ago

    That makes perfect sense, yes. I just think it would be a good idea if in the "no fedposting rule" we defined precisely what the differences are between those two statements. Just so it's very clear to everyone where exactly the Trevor Line is on this site. illegal-to-say

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  • [–] 29 points 10 months ago

    Understood, from now on I will say "in Garry's Mod" instead

    ※ This is an American joke

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  • [–] 26 points 10 months ago

    Unlimited genocide on the first world

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  • [–] 26 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    Is Death to Amerikkka fedposting?

    I will keep saying it.

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  • [–] 25 points 10 months ago (5 children)

    Yeah. Never threaten anyone.

    Why would you give them warning lmao

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  • [–] 18 points 10 months ago

    A lotta y'all still don't get it.

    Fedposters can use multiple slurp juices on a single death threat

    So if you have one actionable call to violence and 3 slurp juices, you can create 3 new pretexts for the FBI

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  • [–] 22 points 10 months ago (5 children)

    Are "Down with ICE/any horrible US government agency" posts subject to moderation?

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  • [–] 22 points 10 months ago

    Times like these are when you must carry the burden of being right. Why be angry when you can be correct?

    Talk with your liberal friends and relatives. Point out the material interests of US involvement, then wait for Trump to blurt it all out on TruSus. Watch as reactions go from :smuglord: to :lisan-al-gaib:

    Liberals need time to be cooked, and :cool-zone: moments are when the heat is turned up.

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  • [–] 20 points 10 months ago

    Okay I know I've been doing it a lot lately. I'll cool it off, feel free to wipe anything.

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    I only fedpost in Minecraft

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  • [–] 18 points 10 months ago (4 children)

    Can I fedpost on other instances?

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    [–] 17 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    Being polite isn't going to stop feds from tracking down anyone they want to track down and kill/enslave/deport. The Biden administration already declared that anticapitalism is terrorism.

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    [–] 14 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    What about the WTYP style guide "i hope they have a wonderful time"

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  • [–] 14 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    Does this include countries and political groups like, picking examples at random, amerikkka and zioniSSts?

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  • [–] 12 points 10 months ago*

    I assume "people or groups of people" refers to specific targeted threats, and doesn't include slogans like "death to america" or "unlimited genocide on the first world"? edit: I see you already clarified this one in another comment as being fine.

    and what about posting something like: "I want to [redacted] with a thousand [redacted] until the [redacted] runs red with [redacted]", where no specific threat is made but it's clear that the post is playing with that idea?

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  • [–] 11 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    illegal-to-say

    Seems like it's in the same sort of vein. Is this a call to change behavior to be more tame in the use of rhetoric or simply to not escalate it?

    Thought about not hitting post but that'd be liberalism.

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  • [–] [S] 31 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

    This is not necessarily a call to change any current behavior. I’ve been around long enough to know, though, when really bad things happen the fedposting does happen in the immediate aftermath.

    So I guess it’s the later, a request to not escalate.

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  • [–] 11 points 10 months ago

    can cats eat salami fedpost?

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