My schools entire assignment system is out today.

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[–] 202 points 11 months ago (35 children)

You'd be hard pressed to find an online service that isn't associated with AWS in some way.

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  • [–] 22 points 11 months ago (11 children)

    I'm pretty sure most of Azure (Microsoft), OCI (Oracle), and GCP (Google) have all been fine.

    Bezos is a craven beast but I don't see many companies above with CEOs that I'd feel comfortable babysitting my teenage daughter

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  • [–] 7 points 11 months ago (5 children)

    Sure, but online services can certainly leverage multiple modules, from multiple companies, hosted in multiple places. So maybe your site mostly works fine, but a key aspect of it is broken.

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  • [–] 20 points 11 months ago (4 children)

    Lemmy seemed fine, Reddit did not.

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  • [–] 23 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    Lemmy seemed fine

    Federated, open source

    Reddit did not

    Centralized, corporate

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  • [–] 5 points 11 months ago

    That doesnt really have anything to do with this issue. Lemmy can absolutly be hosted in AWS via ECS (or EKS if you love Kubernetes). Hell, it could be hosted directly on EC2 if preferred.

    Federation as a whole is more resilient because each operator can chose whatever hosting solution they prefer. But if your particular server happened to be hosted in AWS in the useast1 region; your shit was gonna be a bit busted.

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  • [–] 7 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (6 children)

    Walmart.com would likely work fine, as they are rabidly anti-Amazon, especially AWS. They don't even want their SaaS vendors using AWS under the covers for them.

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  • [–] 9 points 11 months ago (5 children)

    Can confirm, about 10 years ago, the company I worked for migrated to AWS, and I managed the transition. We planned everything meticulously so that there would be no downtime, and used it as excuse to fix a lot of tech debt. No one was supposed to even notice the cutover, and when we did it, I expected the only feedback to be that things seemed faster and were working as expected. A few hours later, we get a complaint from an Account Manager for Walmart that they can't access the platform at all. There was a lot of confusion and back and forth, turns out their IT department had an allow list or something in the corporate DNS to not resolve to AWS owned IPs unless approved. We eventually got them to add our domain to their allowlist, but it seemed insane that they would spend the effort to implement and maintain that level of control.

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  • [–] 4 points 11 months ago (4 children)

    Amazon and walmart are competitors

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  • [–] 3 points 11 months ago (3 children)

    Totally, I understand that, but seemed to be an extreme measure they are inflicting on their employees that doesn't really change anything. It'd be like if ExxonMobil didn't allow their employees with company cars to fill up at a Chevron station.

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  • [–] 81 points 11 months ago (3 children)

    I brought down all my department's services to take a day off and blame it on Amazon. Next year when negotiating a raise/budget increase, I'll point to this incident and take credit for migrating us off AWS after six months of in-person training classes (either in places I haven't visited or would like to see again) and another six months of hard work in the office (napping in the server room).

    2026 is looking pretty good already and I definitely won't regret tempting fate by saying that.

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  • [–] 62 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    The really stupid thing is that even if you weren't in AWS east us 1 you were still boned because that is where AWS does it's service authentication.

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  • [–] 18 points 11 months ago*

    I love it when Cloud companies pretend there are "serverless" services that are "location-transparent"

    You know, they sell this crap to governments and have to follow compliance regimes like FedRAMP but yet... this happens

    But the only way to do this is to have a CSO willing to invest heavy in red-teaming -- for attacks of every kind the team can brainstorm -- and a CEO willing to spend the $$ and attention to get their recommendations implemented.

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  • [–] 35 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    We all fund the devil pretending we don't know.

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  • [–] 21 points 11 months ago (3 children)

    Same, Canvas is perhaps the most used Learning Management System in the US and they apparently are entirely hosted on AWS East. The real kicker is I had my students midterm due date literally today for two classes. I've been swamped with panic emails (and I made clear my due dates aren't even that important when there isn't a national outage lol).

    My head canon is someone wished for a miracle due date extension somewhere in the country and they monkey's pawed AWS into non existence.

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    [–] 17 points 11 months ago (3 children)

    I wouldn't look at it that way. Even companies not leveraging AWS directly will be impacted.

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    [–] 8 points 11 months ago

    My wife and I are at Disneyland today, and their site is down. xD

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  • Yep, I just love how one service provider goes down and way to much of the internet goes down with it.

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  • [–] 6 points 11 months ago (1 child)
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    [–] 6 points 11 months ago

    fr i cant believe clash royale is a part of that

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  • [–] 5 points 11 months ago (3 children)

    EBSCO was down. Ask me how my dissertation writing progressed today...

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  • [–] 4 points 11 months ago (4 children)

    scums

    Not a plural/countable word.

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  • [–] 4 points 11 months ago

    I haven't been able to use Flickr for 10 hours. I'm so mad

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