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[–] 113 points 11 months ago (12 children)

“The fall of Rome, Spain’s imperial decline, the French Revolution, the end of Bretton Woods [the 1944 agreement establishing today's international monetary system]… this is effectively a transfer of real wealth from the poor to the rich elites who protect themselves with gold,” Bertrand wrote. “We’re witnessing what may be one of the great pivotal moments in financial history yet it’s being barely discussed.”

It'll never get old to me that the Uber wealthy know money is only valuable because everyone agrees it is. And when they accumulate too much, everyone else stops caring about it make Ng it worthless...

And their response is always to hoard a different thing that is mostly valuable only because people all agree it is.

Like, gold does have some actual uses, but none of this is being used for that. Just hoarded because people think others want it.

But shit gets bad enough, it's like a zombie apocalypse.

You can have all the gold in the world, doesn't mean someone will trade even a gun with a single bullet for it.

There's just no real way to hold onto that insane levels of wealth it inequality, because it's totally unnatural. It's unmaintainable, but the people who benefit will try everything to keep it.

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  • [–] 40 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    It's the legendary metaphor of the all powerful dragon that sits on his mountain of gold

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  • [–] 17 points 11 months ago

    I could see wall street and other traders trading options on the gold under the dragon because it isn't going anywhere and it's safe from basically everything.

    That market will crash if sufficiently skilled dragon hunters show up though, better ban dragon slaying.

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  • [–] 12 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    I feel like the gold is more for using right before the worst case scenarios, in the end, they will have enough firepower, security, and other necessary provisions. After having that, just get a big enough following of people who think you’re the ideal candidate to be seen as a king for them and that’s what the rich will become in the next theoretical cycle of civilization.

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  • [–] 19 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

    that’s what the rich will become in the next theoretical cycle of civilization.

    On the surface, it sounds plausible. But if you dig into how the resources you mentioned are produced, the ones which would allow them to become kings, there's a plot hole. The production can only be done in centralized factories where many workers labour. And the inputs for those factories are done in other factories where many workers labour. As long as such resources are required to maintain these fiefdoms, the rulers power would be constrained by labour power. And we know from history that when enough workers are out of a job, when enough live in poverty, workers organize to stop working and take over the factories. Then they start producing for themselves, instead of the rulers. Then the rulers end up with no guns or other technology needed to enforce their power. What's worse for the prospects of the future would-be-kings, is that the theory which tells workers how to organize and what to do in such cases has been written, and tested, and it works. And so I think we're likely gonna see more of that instead of new monarchies formed by former capitalist elites.

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    [–] 80 points 11 months ago (187 children)

    The imaginary money you invested in gold is worthless if civilization collapsed, so it's in the rich person's interests to keep things going so they can pull that investment back.

    It's more likely we are heading to another US recession, hopefully not as bad as the 1930s

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    [–] 68 points 11 months ago

    Some See Warning Signs of Civilizational Collapse

    Yes. Everyone.

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  • [–] 44 points 11 months ago

    Just late stage capitalism.

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  • [–] 41 points 11 months ago

    Whenever the pet rock starts to outperform the markets you know you're in for a bad time.

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  • [–] 41 points 11 months ago (3 children)

    I work in the mining industry and all of my coworkers are so excited about the price of gold and other precious metals hitting record highs. They say that this will result in all of us becoming wealthy. Bless their hearts…

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  • [–] 11 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    Their bosses, you'd think the know the difference.

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  • [–] 12 points 11 months ago

    You would think that but no, most of the management is the same. All are happily excited about all the things they are doing to buy. There are a handful of people who are going to be retiring within a year and they are all excited too. One of the older employees has medical issues and requires medication and within the last couple of months he has been unable to get his medication and has had a few moments where he has been hospitalized as a result. And he blames “woke” and “trans liberals” for the problems. The next 4-6 months are going to be interesting to see.

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  • [+] 33 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (9 children)
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    [–] 24 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    if you are a "have not" start hoarding bullets, they are really good at farming gold from the "haves"

    brought to you by Big Marauder

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  • [–] 21 points 11 months ago

    Gold is worth more for the same reason stocks are worth more.

    The GOP is destroying the dollar.

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  • [–] 21 points 11 months ago (7 children)

    This is why I started hoarding bottle caps.

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    [–] 20 points 11 months ago (12 children)

    My maga mom has been trying to get me to buy silver for the last few months and I keep telling her if society ended silver isn’t gonna be worth anything. She got mad and changed the subject 😅

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    [–] 19 points 11 months ago (11 children)

    *American civilisational collapse

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  • [–] 26 points 11 months ago (4 children)

    America has been the most dominant world-wide force in 6 decades. If it collapses, it's doing a lot of damage, taking other civilizations with it.

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    [–] 18 points 11 months ago

    This is great news, my Beanie Baby collection is about to bounce back.

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  • [–] 12 points 11 months ago (3 children)

    A very useful currency for a collapse at least in the early days is gonna be cigarettes

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    [–] 12 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    And some others saw the warning signs a long while ago. I'm glad that some more of the people are finally catching up.

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