Personally, I have been moving the opposite way. There are so many bullshit websites, wading through them is a pain. Instead, I directly jump to Wikipedia
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Well, you won't ever be losing me, WP.
I'll be honest with you: I have absolutely no idea how to interpret that in this context.
Vanilla guess: WP = Winnie the Pooh.
AI creating more poor thinkers is how I read this. Its like that outer limits episode where everyone is hooked up to all the answers mentally and one guy can't have the implant. In the end he is the only who can find his own answers.
I've had this thought about heaven before. Like I assume you don't go in with whatever limitations there are on your brain in your earthly form, which means the people that died longest ago will have this almost unapproachable level of knowledge, and it feels like that everyone would get to that level across eternity. Then what? It would be a space filled with everyone that knows everything. Would you even be you anymore? Wouldn't it all be boring?
(I don't believe in heaven)
I cancelled my donations to wikipedia since the WMF announced they'd be using AI, and they gave me a really milquetoast bullshit response when I emailed them. Can't trust such a precious, collaborative, human effort as Wikipedia to a bunch of anti-human robofuckers. 🤷♂️
Correct me if im wrong, but haven't they since gone back on AI integration, and are no longer planning any, after backlash from their contributors?
That's a problem across the board. Assuming AI does establish itself, all it's training data dries up and we basically stagnate.
Also, in this weird inbetween phase until it is actually good, we've already generated so much bullshit that AI trains on the hallucinations of other AIs.
As some point we will train it on live data similar to how human babies are trained. There's always more data.
And the AIs themselves can generate data. There have been a few recent news stories about AIs doing novel research, that will only become more prevalent over time.
Though, a big catch is that whatever is generated needs to be verified. The most recent story I've seen was the AI proposing the hypothesis of a particular drug increasing antigen presentation, which could turn cold tumors (those the immune system does not attack) into hot tumors (those the immune system does attack). The key news here is that this hypothesis was found to be correct, as an experiment has shown that said drug does have this effect. (link to Google's press release)
The catch here is that I have not seen any info on how many hypotheses were generated to find this correct hypothesis. It doesn't have to be perfect: research often causes a hypothesis to be rejected, even if proposed by a person rather than AI. However signal-to-noise is still important for how game changing it will be. Like in this blogpost it can fail to identify a solution at all, or even return incorrect hypotheses. You can't simply use this data for further training the LLM, as it would only degrade the performance.
There needs to be a verification and filtering first. Wikipedia has played such a role for a very long time, where editors reference sources, and verify the trustworthiness of these sources. If Wikipedia goes under because of this, either due to a lack of funding or due to a lack of editors, a very important source will be lost.
It's like the search summary problem, only worse. Before, people lost traffic already cause Google would try to answer the question with a snippet from your site; however, LLMs (or at least ChatGPT) are trained on Wikipedia, because it's available data. With Reddit being first, Wikipedia being the second largest source of facts they used (at least, according to statista).
Side note, you're not even supposed to source facts from Reddit or Wikipedia, they're better for finding other sources. It's like a game of telephone, at the tertiary source you're getting even less accurate information. It's just oh so stupid the direction end users are herded towards.
AI scrapers don't make donations
My view of the danger is that people are sourcing facts from AI instead of Wikipedia. Not worried about volunteers, they're not going anywhere.
It's been the goolge search results ai are mostly just ripping text from wikipedia
Well maybe if there wasn't a huge banner bugging me for 3.50 like the lock ness monster at the top of every article people wouldn't need to use LLMs to get the useful info /s
I don’t use AI at all

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