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[–] 130 points 3 years ago* (2 children)

I don't know how I feel about that. They both deserve to be treated like cartel criminals. NOTHING LESS.

You gotta realize criminals and street life is the same as the mainstream. Please trust me.

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  • [–] 31 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    Agreed. Rationalizing one as being the 'lesser evil' is basically just shifting the Overton window. Both are evil. Both deserve to lose. If they can make each other lose that would be ideal but if only one wins, we all still lose.

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  • [–] 16 points 3 years ago (3 children)

    It’s odd to me people think Elon is more evil anyway. He’s definitely louder and stupider but way less responsible for tearing apart the fabric of our society. And some of his projects have been a net positive.

    They should both lose to death but if we’re gonna make the comparison, Zuckbot is hands down more evil.

    That being said, it will still be hilarious if zucc beats the shit out of Elongated Muskrat.

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    [–] 66 points 3 years ago (5 children)

    Fuck Elmo but I just don't want Meta to replace Twitter's social media niche. I would prefer if Mastodon would be the next "Twitter" but at this point I would be okay with Bluesky too. The Meta cancer is already big enough and has too much influence.

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  • [–] 18 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    I'd rather have a moderated site replace Twitter at this point, even if it's run by Meta. My first choice is for an intuitive non-Meta alternative to rise to prominence, ideally in the fediverse, but I think Mastodon had its chance and its unintuitive nature was too challenging for a critical mass of lay people. It needs to be: sign up, start posting. Instead it's: sign up, choose your server. Huh? You're already losing people.

    All this has already been covered but it has to be simple and intuitive and that's what Threads is offering and Mastodon isn't.

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  • [–] 8 points 3 years ago

    I think everyone in the ActivityPub hopes Mastodon is the next Twitter but other than that, it's a tie between the all three. I think Bluesky has the best chance since it has the cleanest plate but it'll absolute turn into a shit hole like the rest.

    Cohost would be cool.

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    [–] 45 points 3 years ago* (1 child)

    This sentiment is so fucking wrong. Please, for god's sake, please understand that Zuckerberg is NOT the lesser of two evils here. Meta facilitated a genocide by artificially promoting hateful content to boost engagement, quietly and without obvious consent performed behavior experiments on its users, and so much fucking more that the two aforementioned points barely even scratch the surface.

    You people are trading being punched in the face with being beaten senselessly with a baseball bat.

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  • [–] 43 points 3 years ago (6 children)

    No, the correct answer is "fuck both of them". You don't need Twitter, you definitely don't need Threads.

    You don't even need Mastodon for that matter. You don't need a constant drip feed of dopamine. If you need to stay informed, you can just use news sites or something.

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    [–] 43 points 3 years ago (2 children)

    It's definitely not worth it. Zuckerberg is the bigger fish here, at least within the social media domain. Meta's threads replacing Twitter would make them even more powerful than they already are. I don't like Elon, and it's crazy that he somehow managed to make Twitter even worse than it was, but we really don't need Meta to grow even larger.

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  • [–] 8 points 3 years ago

    Yeah exactly. Once the Zucc also reaches out for Tumblr, the last bastion of "Ugh, we don't want Corpos here", we're done. We need to stop both Eloy and Zucc even before that. The Fediverse needs to fight an active war, we're already living the Cyberpunk Dystopia.

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    [–] 36 points 3 years ago (6 children)

    That's like rooting for Himmler to win because you hate Hitler.

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    [–] 33 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    how about both twitter and threads die and the people win?

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  • [–] 18 points 3 years ago (4 children)

    But then whose boot do we get to lick?

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  • [–] 32 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    I want them both to lose. Twitter dying would be in some ways, a victory for the people. But giving zucky more control over people's lives is a horrible idea, especially when you take into account meta's past. But we don't have much say in what happens there, so we gotta learn to fight back.

    Threads is banned in Europe which will probably leave a lot of people sad, if you ask me that's the perfect opportunity to advertise mastodon and other fediverse projects to your friends, family, etc. Talk about it on bigger platforms if you still have an account on them, engage with posts and videos about the fediverse and how to use it so we can get them into the algorithm. Every little bit helps, we can do this.

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  • [–] 25 points 3 years ago

    Trading one asshole billionaire for another is a losing game. The only losers are users of these services.

    It's like two giant Mecha robots fighting while a crowd of fans of one or the other are cheering on the ground and being squished.

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  • [–] 21 points 3 years ago* (2 children)

    ngl, i'd rather twitter wins since it's imploding already so it will hardly survive for much time after it beats threads down

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    [–] 18 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    So here's what we do: we let Threads kill Twitter. Then, when Twitter is dead, we kill Threads.

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  • [–] 17 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    In the fight against one evil should we really join another evil to do that

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  • [–] 15 points 3 years ago (2 children)

    Lesser of two evils has never gotten us anything but evil.

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    [–] 15 points 3 years ago

    No. Meta needs to die.

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  • [–] 9 points 3 years ago

    still don't want zucc to win, tho

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  • [–] 8 points 3 years ago

    The worst part is that they will ppv the fight and split the earnings. I personally don't give a shit about this fight but know a ton of people will pay to watch these two fuckwads fight

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  • [–] 8 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (13 children)

    Elon is fine in comparison; he's far less of a problem than Meta is.

    The platform at this point may as well already be doomed because of people like you.

    Really - it's like I'm reading the posts of Reddit manchildren who will forever retain their virginity because they're incapable of understanding how things actually get done.

    I guess you can't expect much these days.

    What's going to happen next? Meta dominates the platform, you and the rest of your kind "protest", then you fuck off somewhere else and pretend you "won", while sucking each other off only for a repeat to happen sometime later?

    Are you going to wear your fedoras?

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    [–] 8 points 3 years ago (5 children)

    You don't need either of them and if you feel that you need this kind of site then mastadon will work fine until you figure out that you don't

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    [–] 7 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago)

    I think the funniest part of this whole thing is how Musk insists Meta MUST have poached employees from Twitter, as if Twitter has this revolutionary sauce that just can't be replicated at all.
    Bluesky is even closer to Twitter's UI than Threads and I don't see Musk bitching about it at all.

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  • [–] 7 points 3 years ago

    The enemy of my enemy is my enemy's enemy. No more. No less.

    There's a lot of wisdom in that.

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  • [–] 7 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    It's really a choose your poison situation

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    [–] 6 points 3 years ago

    Why use either?

    Theres mastodon as a twitter replacement.. lol

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  • [–] 5 points 3 years ago

    I‘d enjoy it if they both lose money/attention and more of it went to the devs and admins of all these instances I like. Unlikely, but I can dream.

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  • [–] 4 points 3 years ago

    but why use threads when you could use mastodon? When threads enters the fediverse it is like the ad free version of threads (from a threads user perspective)

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