submitted 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) by [M] to c/politics@lemmy.world
 

So here we go again...

Please direct all comments and links regarding the actual VOTING to this thread.

Edit Confirmed, Mike Johnson is the next speaker after running the table of all present and voting Republicans, 220 to Hakeem Jeffries 209.

If you'd like to know more about Mike Johnson, here's a good link:

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/oct/25/who-is-mike-johnson-republican-2020-election

I'll leave this pinned for 24 hours so everyone can catch up, then take it down.

1st vote count is in:

Hakeem Jeffries - 212 (217 needed to win)
Jim Jordan - 200
Steve Scalise - 7
Kevin McCarthy - 6
"Others" - 7

Jordan could have only lost 4 votes, he lost 20.

2nd vote:

Jeffries - 212
Jordan - 199
Scalise - 7
McCarthy - 5
Zeldin - 3
"Others" - 7 (one each)

Edit 3rd vote is in, House in recess.

Jeffries - 210
Jordan - 194
Scalise - 8
McHenry - 6
Zeldin - 4
Donalds - 2
McCarthy - 2
"Others" - 3 (1 each)

Matt Gaetz has vowed to oppose expanding the powers for McHenry:

https://thehill.com/homenews/house/4265284-gaetz-will-do-everything-possible-stop-empowering-mchenry/

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[–] 106 points 2 years ago (2 children)

The guy described HIMSELF as “David Duke without the baggage.” I’ve never seen a word do as much lifting as the word “baggage” as he used it.

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  • [–] 55 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    I really want to know, what's left when you take away the baggage from "David Duke".

    Did he have any redeeming qualities?

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  • [–] 13 points 2 years ago (4 children)
  • [–] [S] 63 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Failed politician and former Grand Wizard of the KKK.

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  • [–] 20 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    So if you consider the Grand Wizard as the baggage, that leaves us with "failed politician." If you consider failed politician as the baggage, that leaves the KKK.

    So he's a bright star for maga dumb-dumbs either way.

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  • [–] 13 points 2 years ago

    I consider the baggage to be the fact that people know David Duke was racist. Had they not known about the racism, he would not have baggage.

    I think that is what Scalice was saying. He's like David Duke except not everyone knows how racist he is.

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  • [–] 58 points 2 years ago (8 children)

    So, the Republican Party is down with the KKK. The mask is off, isn't it?

    Will the "liberal media" please catch up?

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    [–] 38 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    There's only one person who deserves to be speaker.

    HAKEEEEEEEEM JEFFRIES!

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    [–] 30 points 2 years ago* (2 children)

    Scalise beat Jordan 113-99.

    Democrats unanimously renominated House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries, D-N.Y.,

    To win the gavel, a candidate needs support from a majority of the House members present, meaning the eventual speaker will need 217 votes if every one of the current members votes and does so for a candidate by name. There are currently 433 members, with two vacancies, so a majority is 217.

    If members are absent, or if some vote present instead of supporting a candidate, that decreases what the majority vote needs to be. The House is intended to have a total membership of 435 members, so a majority is usually 218.

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  • [–] 20 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (6 children)

    Steve Scalise barely beat Jim Jordan, who *if I'm not mistaken, is the guy that helped cover up a bunch of sexual abuse? That Jim Jordan?

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  • [–] 25 points 2 years ago

    Jim Jordan is the sexual abuse cover up guy at OSU. Scalise is the blatant white supremacist who speaks at hate group events (see European-American Unity and Rights Organization which was founded by David Duke who used to head the KKK) and also compared himself to David Duke.

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  • [–] 27 points 2 years ago (5 children)

    It's a long shot, but Moderate Republicans and McCarthy supporters could cast a vote for Democrat Jefferies as a FU to the Freedom Caucus. They would likely be able to get things done as a result.

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  • [–] 16 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    Honestly, I'm really don't understand why this didn't happen last time.

    Surely there have to be a few Republicans in Blue leaning districts that just barely got voted in and are at risk of losing their seat next election.

    There is just so much to gain by putting country above party under those circumstances.

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  • [–] 13 points 2 years ago* (3 children)

    That will never happen. It's much more likely IMHO for Democrats to throw some votes at a moderate Republican to get them over the line. Not Kevin, probably not Steve Scalise.

    Becoming Speaker is only part of the story, though. The Speaker sets the agenda (meaning the day's schedule) but that agenda is subject to a vote and needs a majority every single time. So any Democrats who support a Republican (or vice versa) would have to be relied on to vote in favor of that speaker's scheduling, otherwise nothing can be scheduled.

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    [+] 25 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)
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    [–] 24 points 2 years ago* (1 child)

    You all should see the picture in "Jim Jordan fails to win the speakership on first ballot" at CNN. Absolutely hilarious.

    Oh man, my day has absolutely been brightened.

    EDIT: Here, I'll try posting a picture:

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  • [–] 23 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Jeffries is still closer to Speaker than Jim Jordan.

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    [–] 15 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Jim Jordan just dropped out for Speaker. Republicans are back to square one with no nominee.

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    [–] 15 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Jordan says he's going to keep trying. $10 says he actually loses votes as this goes on

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    [–] 14 points 2 years ago

    jim jordan: this is the worst day of my life

    kevin mccarthy: the worst day of your life so far

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    [–] 13 points 2 years ago (6 children)

    Johnson, one of the most conservative options imaginable, won probably because Republicans were sick of the chaos.

    They are currently in the fuck around phase, and when it comes time to do the budget, will find out. Johnson will either trigger a shutdown and get all the blame onto the Republicans by refusing to compromise (and further prove the crazies have taken over the party) or he'll get a deal with Democrats and then Gaetz will yeet him again.

    I give it until... Dec 1. Until speaker elections begin again.

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    [–] 12 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

    Groundhog day:

    The House adjourned without a vote for a new speaker. The Republican caucus have not reached the necessary 217 votes within the conference to elect Rep. Jim Jordan (R-OH), who leads in the GOP with 152 in favor. [link]

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    [+] 12 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (7 children)
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    [–] 12 points 2 years ago

    Looks like Jordan lost the first round.

    Who knew that "know-nothing" applied to whipping your own vote?

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  • [–] 12 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I wonder if Scalise can beat McCarthy's record fifteen votes? I'll bet he can!

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    [–] 12 points 2 years ago

    My day is made immeasurably better by Jim Jordan's failure. This entertainment is surely the best thing he's ever done for the country.

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  • [–] 11 points 2 years ago

    Kowtowing to terrorists has worked so well for everyone that has ever tried. Good job Republicans!

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  • [–] 11 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    https://www.nytimes.com/live/2023/10/11/us/house-speaker-vote-news

    Speaker ElectionHouse Delays Vote on Speaker After G.O.P. Nominates Steve Scalise

    It became clear after the No. 2 Republican in the House won a secret ballot to become his party’s nominee that he did not have the votes to win the gavel.

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