[A]n INI configuration file in the Windows Canary channel, discovered by German website Deskmodder, includes references to a "Subscription Edition," "Subscription Type," and a "subscription status."

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[+] 589 points 3 years ago (85 children)
  • [–] 210 points 3 years ago (16 children)

    For the average consumer, this would help Apple and Google out more than anything. People want what they know.

    On the more savvy user side and for gamers, this move would, potentially, help Linux adoption rates.

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  • [+] 70 points 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (38 children)
  • [–] 41 points 3 years ago (22 children)

    Trust me, it’s already worth it. Literally every other operating system in existence is better than windows. I’d use Temple OS before going back.

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  • [–] 29 points 3 years ago (8 children)

    There might be a subscription option or a subscription tier with a windows suite like office and stuff included in it, but for normal windows OS, they're decades away from going to a subscription only model, at best.

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    [–] 236 points 3 years ago (39 children)

    I'm looking forward to the Year of the Linux desktop ™️

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    [–] 203 points 3 years ago (12 children)

    Remember when Microsoft said that Windows 10 would be the last edition?

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  • [–] 90 points 3 years ago (3 children)

    In effect, it will be for some people fed up with all this bullshit.

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  • [–] 164 points 3 years ago* (17 children)

    I don't believe for one bit that windows will move to a pure subscription based model. They are greedy, but not stupid.

    What's more believable is that the base OS will be the same as usual, but if you want fancy AI assistants in your OS, you must subscribe, with the justification being that MS must pay for the servers running the models you're using.

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    [–] 138 points 3 years ago* (8 children)

    The idea that windows would require a subscription for an OS pisses me off more than I thought.

    Good way for them to guarantee a exodus of people switching their OS.

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    [–] 109 points 3 years ago (15 children)

    Can anyone confirm that my understanding of the source article is correct?

    The "Windows 12 may require a subscription" is coming from the fact that the word "Subscription" exists in a Windows config file somewhere?

    That seems like a pretty big leap to me. Not that I don't think it's impossible that Microsoft would do this, but the evidence here seems thin to say the least.

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    [–] 85 points 3 years ago (9 children)

    Time to contribute heavily to Linux open source and make Linux desktops super useful to everyone.

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    [–] 79 points 3 years ago (48 children)

    Maybe this will finally convince the world to move to Linux Mint

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  • [–] 43 points 3 years ago* (35 children)

    You'll be surprised/dismayed how resistant people are to learning something new.

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  • [–] 80 points 3 years ago (9 children)

    It's extremely obnoxious to suggest that people don't use Linux because they don't want to learn something new. They don't use it because there's absolutely no need for them to do so when Windows is a fantastic OS for their needs

    Even when you're a bit more savvy it's easy to configure Windows to your liking without all the bloat and spying

    I'm perfectly happy programming a Pi for little projects so I know Linux wouldn't be a problem for me, but I simply have no need for the hassle

    Linux users are like militant vegans; they do more to put people off Linux than promote it

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  • [–] 29 points 3 years ago (18 children)

    I'm technical and I still prefer Windows at home. Linux, as great as it can be for development, is not great for everyone. It doesn't "just work." My favourite example of Linux not "just" working is when Linus tried to install Steam on Pop_OS. He accidentally nuked the entire desktop. I could have easily done the same if I wasn't paying careful attention. One should never, ever be able to destroy their OS by installing Steam. That's part of the issue. When things go wrong, all of the instructions which present on Google are people providing terminal commands. Unless one is very comfortable with using the terminal, they're going to be copying and pasting these commands in and hoping for the best. This is what went wrong for Linus. This is far worse than following GUI based troubleshooting techniques which guide the user through defined and safe resolutions.

    This over-reliance on the terminal is pervasive, and I find myself having to use it for everything from basic OS configuration to software installation to software configuration to drivers to hardware installation and troubleshooting. Every year I boot up a new flavour just to see if things have improved, and they haven't. Ultimately Linux is built by developers, for developers. That's great, and it does many things really well. I've just come to accept that it doesn't do consumer stuff very well. It lacks the UX polish present in Windows and MacOS, and most consumers like that. It fails especially hard when it comes to gaming. I literally cannot install any of my Fanatec wheel/peddle/shifter peripherals in any distro. Only 18% of games on ProtonDB are Tier 1. Even of those, it doesn't guarantee a trouble-free experience. Half the top streamed Twitch games just don't run on Linux at all, or require absurd workarounds and suffer from terrible performance.

    I'll keep using Linux for my home server, but it's along way from replacing my PC or laptop OS.

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    [+] 63 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (15 children)
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    [–] 62 points 3 years ago (8 children)

    I have used Windows for a decade now and keep using it because my workflows and the application support are there. But as someone that uses Linux on my server, has tried out Linux desktops, and uses WSL, I can confidently say that I am gone if they start charging me a subscription. It will be annoying as hell but just like leaving Reddit I am willing to give up some niceties to keep my money and my morals.

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    [–] 60 points 3 years ago (10 children)

    So the year of the Linux desktop is finally happening

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    [–] 60 points 3 years ago (15 children)

    The rise of Linux is upon us

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    [–] 59 points 3 years ago (3 children)

    So does Linux, I subscribe to the Arch rss feed, which is the operating system I use btw.

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    [–] 57 points 3 years ago (2 children)

    "We'll shut down your computer after this quick message from our sponsor!"

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    [–] 56 points 3 years ago (11 children)

    With this subscription, the year of the Linux desktop will finally be here.

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    [–] 56 points 3 years ago (3 children)

    I knew sooner or later they'd push me to Linux, but that'd do it alright

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    [–] 54 points 3 years ago (26 children)

    I know there's always someone evangelizing Linux when you mention Windows anything, but when Microsoft requires a subscription for Windows is the day I will actually move to Linux.

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    [–] 51 points 3 years ago (7 children)

    This might finally provide the momentum to switch to Linux.

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    [–] 50 points 3 years ago (4 children)

    I can confirm if Windows ever required a subscription I'd be swapping to Linux so fast. So Fast.

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    [–] 41 points 3 years ago (3 children)

    Would fit in with the fact that Microsoft has just patched the remote activation exploit that was used for years.

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    [–] 37 points 3 years ago (5 children)

    Good thing I've been learning to use linux for the past couple of years, if they double down on this I'll switch permanently, just got to find a distro I like because I haven't been able to find anything that just "works" without eventually having to open the terminal for one reason or another.

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    [–] 36 points 3 years ago (2 children)

    I would switch to Linux.... Gaming has gotten much better on it thanks to proton.

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    [–] 36 points 3 years ago (2 children)

    I will happily just not use it. My desktop usage is already 99% Linux, and it has been for considerable amount of time too. The only thing holding me back is my Destiny 2 guild. The moment that is allowed through Proton, I will be removing the partition completely

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    [–] 34 points 3 years ago (7 children)

    I actually rather like win 10. Win 11 I'm holding off on until they fix the taskbar.

    If they go subscription, I go Ubuntu.

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    [–] 33 points 3 years ago

    Sometimes moneygrubbing shareholders do us a favor by steering companies into implementing terrible policies. If Reddit wouldn't have been so greedy with it's treatment of third-party app developers most of use wouldn't be on Lemmy right now. If Microsoft forces Windows users to pay a subscription I think it sends more people away from closed-source garbage and into the arms of the open source community. I've enjoyed watching Reddit implode, hopefully I get to watch a similar show from our friends at Microsoft.

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    [–] 30 points 3 years ago (3 children)

    I'm already using Linux alot, and Windows 10 sometimes. I would drop Windows entirely if it were subscription model.

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    [–] 30 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (5 children)

    Maybe this isn’t for personal editions.

    I’d suspect Microsoft would prefer to move personal editions to being mostly perpetual and OEM licenses, while a subscription service for business/enterprise makes more sense. Windows licensing for business is a nightmare and a per-install subscription model could be much simpler to manage while still offering good breaks under Enterprise Agreements and putting license and support under one annual sku.

    ETA: Also, worth remembering that “Windows 365” is a thing and it’s very useful for DaaS. Term-based licensing makes tons of sense for DaaS/Cloud Desktop/VDI environments.

    And actually, that could make a lot of sense in a future home/personal market with purpose built thin clients. Or perhaps even a set top box. Maybe, even, the Series S. A small monthly/annual fee to to make your Series S into a full-fledged desktop PC, sounds like a hell of a deal to me.

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    [–] 30 points 3 years ago (17 children)

    Linux. Again. Install Linux

    Ubuntu Linux Debian Linux Fedora Linux Pop!os linux Arch Linux for all i care

    Install Linux, stop accepting this bullshit from Microsoft. ALL of their software sucks, they care more about marketing and pulling money out of your pocket than actually giving quality software.

    Open source software blows everything Microsoft out of the water, stop accepting the bullshit

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    [–] 28 points 3 years ago (2 children)

    Not even confirmed but people here are already losing their mind.

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    [–] 25 points 3 years ago (4 children)

    After seeing what the Steam Deck does with Windows emulation for games, my interset in having a windows gaming computer is barely hanging on.

    This would 100% influence my next gaming computer to shy away from Windows 12

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