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[–] 89 points 1 year ago* (2 children)

The best commentary I've ever heard on privacy was from the Girl in the movie Anon:

"It's not that I have something to hide. I have nothing I want you to see."

This to me encapsulates perfectly why everybody should want privacy.

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  • [–] 60 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    My favorite version is: “I need privacy, not because my actions are questionable, but because your judgement and intentions are.”

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Yeah that’s one of the best counter-arguments. The bathroom door or unlocked phone isn’t really a good example because that’s not the privacy issue those people need to be convinced they need.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    The bathroom door analogy is kinda weird though.

    Yes, I do have something to hide. Other people don’t need to see me wipe my ass. Normal people don’t even want to see that, because they have respect and decency. Weirdos who want to see that should not be allowed to. That’s why we have doors.

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  • [–] 36 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

    IMO Snowden said it best; saying I'm against privacy because I have nothing to hide is like saying im against free speech because I have nothing to say.

    It was also (Goebbels?) the Nazis who came up with that phrase.

    Edit: Nazis (sic) came up with the "if you have nothing to hide you have nothing to fear" Not the rest!

    Edit2: it was not they who invented it

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I agree with the first part.

    But just to correct you, Goebbels didn't say that at any time. (Don't think the Nazis either)

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  • [–] 29 points 1 year ago

    We've had real life examples recently why this take is stupid. All the women who posted they were pregnant or wanted to get an abortion in Texas, suddenly they got prosecuted for it when the law changed and there suddenly wasn't a pregnancy anymore. You never know what's legal now and tomorrow not.

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  • [–] 18 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    I wonder when "None of your business" left our general speech.

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  • [–] 15 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I have nothing to hide

    Let me get a good look of that butthole then

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago

    Part of the freedom of expression should be the freedom to share. Or not share.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago

    I have plenty to hide. And imma keep hiding that shit.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I think I will put it this way: I have nothing that I want you to see - and be a victim to your twisted imagination.

    In 17th century China, Qing emperors sometimes walked the markets dressed as commoners. One day, the emperor stood at a bookstall, reading quietly. A breeze turned the pages beside him.

    A nearby poet saw this and joked:

    "The wind can’t read, why turn the pages?"

    He was later executed. History did not even record his name.

    In Chinese, "wind" shares a character with "Qing", the ruling dynasty.

    Reference: https://tinyurl.com/4ment9ud

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    In Chinese, "wind" shares a character with "Qing", the ruling dynasty.

    I was perplexed by this because it doesn't, but it turns out the intellectual said ‘清风’ — cool breeze, which has ‘Qing’ in it, not just a same sound but the very character for the dynasty. I'm not trying to absolve the stupid act, but this context is kinda important and words were often given more weight than they should in historic China, imo.

    For anyone interested, this refers to Emperor Shizong who is the Yongzheng Emperor (13 December 1678 – 8 October 1735)

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago

    Maybe there is nowhere to hide

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    Trying to think of a relatable popculture argument against this:

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago

    Nothing to hide but the Epstein list.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    Exactly. 'I have nothing to hide' is the surrender of a free mind.

    Privacy isn't about hiding crimes. It's about preventing power from knowing everything — before it decides what you're allowed to think, say, or be.

    This is the core of Chat Control 2.0: not protecting children, but normalizing total surveillance.

    The lie is not just dumb. It's the foundation of the new control.

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