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[–] 56 points 1 year ago

This isn't a peace proposal, it's surrender terms. Keep fighting until Putin's on his knees, Ukraine.

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  • [–] 50 points 1 year ago

    Any appeasement is a permanent loss, for a temporary relief of fighting.

    And only normalizes it the next time it happens.

    You can't negotiate with a group like that, regardless of if they represent a country or not.

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  • [–] 33 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child)

    So basically the same thing they've been asking for for the last two years. Biggest difference now is that Russia's military and economy are so damaged that it'll be much longer before they next break the peace treaty.

    Sounds like the better option is just to offer proper support to Ukranie and wait for Russia to colapse, so there won't be a next time.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    wait for Russia to colapse

    Appearances aside, I think it's already started. Their demographics, economy, industry and materials show a downward spiral. Though in part also true for some other countries, it's this combination that makes it more catastrophic.

    Trees before dying, do have a last great blossoming. Maybe we see some of that.

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  • [–] 30 points 1 year ago

    So Putin's terms are to be completely vulnerable to a future Russian invasion once they re-up their troops and hardware?

    Never trust a Russian. Or a conservative.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    Basically a repeat of 2014 after Russia took Ukraine Crimea and 8 years later they wanted more and there was nothing to stop them but the Ukrainian pushback (which, honestly, kudos for holding out this long).

    So what's going to happen in 2030?

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago

    It's not that exclusive, it's just the same as before. Although usually Putin also mentions something bout a regime change in Ukraine too.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago

    Resistance till the end

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    I don't think anyone sane person cares how Russia negotiates. They try to regain their imperialistic dreams on their road to perdition, whilst destroying what they had left.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    Russian terms: go fuck yourself! - Ukraine

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  • [+] 0 points 1 year ago