cross-posted from: https://slrpnk.net/post/25779751

The intative promises to be privacy-friendly with no tracking. Stating:

Your privacy is important. The WiFi4EU app ensures a private online experience with no tracking or data collection. Simply connect and enjoy free public Wi-Fi without concerns.

Source: https://digital-strategy.ec.europa.eu/en/policies/wifi4eu-citizens

Will be interesting to see how this spans and plays out in reality. Looks promising too, did a quick scan of their builtin permissions and trackers and looks good too. (Scanning tool is called Exodus)

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[–] 113 points 1 year ago* (12 children)

It's mind-blowing how at the same time some EU government guys pushing stuff like DSA while other do something like this (which is nice, and a complete opposite, if it's not honeypot anyways).

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    What's the problem with the Digital Services Act?

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  • [–] 17 points 1 year ago

    Yeah, of all the things to criticise the EU for the DSA is a bizarre pick. Challenging techbro dominance with simple and technically-sensible demands on the gatekeepers is a win for the average person in my book.

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  • [–] 97 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    That's cool. Here in the US, we're this close to banning vaccines. *sad trombone sound

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    [–] 71 points 1 year ago (9 children)

    Title is wrong. It's an old initiative, not even funded anymore. Ran from 2018 to 2020 with 120 Million EUR.

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  • [–] [S] 15 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    my bad! I misread the context and had not heard of it before - yet living in the EU. I will change the title. I got confused as I saw their post on LinkedIn, and it was posted recently: https://www.linkedin.com/posts/european-commission_wifi4eu-activity-7359136374895046656-oXYi

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago

    It's still active as in, they maintain the hotspots. But I just had a look at the map, and it looks like there's spotty service mostly clustered around tiny villages, rather than providing coverage to areas that actual get significant tourism or other visitors.

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    [–] 55 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (35 children)

    oh dude, they promised to be privacy friendly! maybe I'm just too american to believe in promises.

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    [–] 38 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Do you need that app to connect to a WiFi network?

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  • [–] 32 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    Well I don't know if that's a good use of EU money. I'd rather see investments in large and difficult infrastructure, rail, software, datacenters, industrial sectors we're currently lacking, grid investments - stuff like that.

    End user internet access is more like thousands of small decentralised projects. The coordination might make it easier to use compared to if everyone did their own free wifi project, but that's such a small benefit...

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago* (4 children)

    As always, it's not like both aren't possible. As a matter of fact, there is a lot of railway projects ongoing at the same time, to only quote one of your examples.

    A government can take care of more than one issue at a time, luckily.

    It may be a small benefit for you (I assume you are german based on your server), but not every european country or citizen has the same access to internet. This is a good initiative, but obviously not primarily intended for the richer citizens/countries of the union.

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  • [–] 30 points 1 year ago

    If this does what it says on the box its huge

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  • [–] 29 points 1 year ago (8 children)

    I think this is mostly for non-EU tourists. You don't pay for roaming in EU anymore so you don't really need WiFi when traveling.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago

    Recently mobile phone operators introduced a “fair use policy”, so it’s not really a”roam like at home” anymore, but data volumes can be limited to a fraction of what you are entitled to in your home country.

    This is a point where WiFi might get more important again when traveling.

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    [–] 27 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    Leaving the EU is one of the stupidest self harming things we ever did.

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    [–] 22 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Ahh yes, border free travel.. wait a minute, why are the Austrian police on the border here? Wait a minute, why are they stopping us..

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  • [–] 16 points 1 year ago (11 children)

    Honestly nowadays data plans are cheap on most mobile carriers and they're obligated to have them work accross EU, so you no longer really need Wi-Fi when traveling.

    Also, I can see this being easily and constantly exploited via Wi-Fi attacks where hackers set up fake Hotspots with the same name as the closest legit one.

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    [–] 15 points 1 year ago (8 children)

    Damn, this is so cool.
    We could have had this in the States too, but, well, you all know.

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    [–] 14 points 1 year ago (8 children)

    Free Wireless ISP, you say?

    cheapskate romanian sounds

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago

    Germans are gonna start getting out their old cantennas or nanostations and point it at the closest hotspot

    Of course I would never do such a thing, being half german, living in Germany. Certainly didn't live off a nearby restaurants wifi hotspot for almost 2 years.

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    [–] 9 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Thanks to EU roaming rules...

    Not quite. I've come across a few plans that don't offer EU roaming, and also those where there's far less data offered than the regulation requires, or found a loophole.

    Let's go for the examples of no EU roaming data:
    T-Mobile CZ Twist IoT CR - IoT card, but it offers up to 500GB of data paid once a year (78 EUR), only usable in Czech Republic.
    T-Mobile CZ 100GB edition - regular SIM, but also CR-only
    Vodafone CZ GIGA 100 + 50 GB - also a regular prepaid, but no roaming
    Swan Mobile (4ka) Sloboda Data - 300GB in Slovakia, but 0.144 EUR per MB in EU.

    For the last example, they're also the same example that breaches the regulation with other packages. When I did the calculations, they exactly checked out for other 3 MNOs, so I guess I did them right, but they didn't for Swan.
    Further confirming this is the fact that they have already received at least 2 (as far as I could find) fines for breaching these RLAH regulations, that is 15,000 and 90,000 EUR, but I suppose that just ends up being cheaper for them, as it still isn't fixed.

    Anyway, perhaps they did in fact fix this, with a loophole.
    For example, take Sloboda Nekonecno+ for 25EUR/month with "unlimited" (300GB) data. 8.25GB of EU roaming does not look right there.
    So what is going on?
    On paper, it's split up into base and additional package. Base package is 20EUR, and only has 2GB of data. Additional package with unlimited data is 5EUR/month, and as you could guess, cannot be purchased separately.

    So, for base package, you get full allowance, thus 2GB. Additional package is calculated separately, (4.06504065041 / 1.30) * 2 is 6.25. And thus 8.25GB instead of 31.27GB was born.

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    [–] 9 points 1 year ago

    I want to be European so bad.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    More Europeans than ever can watch the live-streamed genocide that we've been arming and encouraging!

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    [–] 7 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    But why an App & not a PWA ?

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