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[–] 242 points 3 years ago (30 children)

Only if you don't know what Cloudlfare does. It protects against all kinds of attacks.

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  • [–] 162 points 3 years ago (12 children)

    Yeah this post is nearly upsettingly ignorant.

    Cloudflare is just about the only big internet company out there objectively doing good things for the Internet.

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  • [–] 14 points 3 years ago (4 children)

    Maybe their point is just privatisation or something.

    For example a dns provider like cloudfare just could artificially make latency costs for servers that don't agree with something cloudfare does bigger, which would result in them being less likely to be displayed in a search result because a search engine would have IP adresses faster from other servers. This obviously depends on if a search engine makes dns requests or just provides hostnames for the end user.

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    [–] 110 points 3 years ago (13 children)

    What?? I thought cloudflare is good. Free Ddos protection, etc.

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  • [–] 68 points 3 years ago (10 children)

    Single point of failure for the whole internet.

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  • [–] 40 points 3 years ago (2 children)

    Only because no one does what they do as well as they do it.

    If they had competition, that wouldn't be the case. Sadly, there are very few other good guys out there...

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  • [–] 11 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    What about akamai? Other CDNs and the like.

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  • [–] 10 points 3 years ago

    There exists competition, they've just been doing it consistently well at a large scale for awhile.

    They've done nothing to prevent competition, because they're legit AF. The competition just hasn't put a dent in their market share because they're excellent at what they do.

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  • [–] 20 points 3 years ago (3 children)

    If cloudflare goes down you can just update DNS to not use it …

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  • [–] 13 points 3 years ago

    Agreed, and I would say what cloudflare does for the internet (their work on the IETF, generally letting small sites stay alive without needing an SRE to worry about DDoS attacks, etc) outweighs the general negative possibility of them being a potential single point of failure

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  • [–] 10 points 3 years ago

    Well the admin of a site could opt out of using cloudflare for the time being, a user could do literally nothing. Errors in Cloudflare can easily take down their servers and therefore the CDN and access to like 20% of websites. And Bugs in Cloudflare can even leak user data.

    So cloudflare can grant DDOS Protection, CDNs and other exploiting protection, but can take down large parts of everything, temporarily or permanently.

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    [–] 69 points 3 years ago (13 children)

    O.o Do you understand what Cloudflare actually does?

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    [–] 44 points 3 years ago (19 children)

    Honestly, I don't know how any end user who doesn't understand IT and wasn't around before services like Cloudflare were available can say this. They objectively don't have the information or experience to make the claim.

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  • [–] 32 points 3 years ago (3 children)

    Throwback to when 1.1.1.1 dropped and we all loved couldflare

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    [–] 31 points 3 years ago (2 children)

    Cloudflare is having some weird issues with Discord this morning.

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    [–] 23 points 3 years ago

    Idk, but my homelab thanks it for the free ZTN and workers.

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  • [–] 21 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (7 children)

    203 upvotes, 202 downvotes. The most controversial lemmy post I've ever seen

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    [–] 19 points 2 years ago

    I am baffled seeing so much cloudflare fanboys here...

    Cloudflare is everywhere, it sees everything, it holds everything, it has private keys for tons and tons of websites, it's subject to the absence of any privacy law in the US, but they are "nice". Wow.

    Google also was nice. It used to give you good results. Twitter also was nice.

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  • [–] 19 points 3 years ago (2 children)

    I want to upvote and downvote this post.. it's so controversial

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    [–] 18 points 3 years ago (4 children)

    "So you solved the catcha, ok, we don't care anyway."

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  • [–] 12 points 3 years ago

    To all the upstart website-havers: no, you probably don't actually need to use cloudflare

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  • [–] 12 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    I hopped in this thread then shortly thereafter got redirected to a cloudfare bad gateway page. It's a conspiracy.

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  • [–] 10 points 3 years ago (5 children)

    Literally trying to figure out if Cloudflare or tailscale would be the best way to go. The memes have spoken

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    [–] 10 points 2 years ago

    This post is currently top-1 when sorting by controversial. Objectively amazing bait.

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