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Ukraine has been upping their attacks lately. And hitting more important and strategic targets with more success day by day. Black Sea Fleet Headquarter was a very important and strategic target (inside Russia) which has been hit by Ukraine recently. Ukraine and its' Western allies are getting more daring each day. What is the path forward for Russia?

Source: https://www.businessinsider.com/russia-blames-western-intel-for-ukraine-attack-black-sea-fleet-2023-9

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They know that they are losing, so they are trying to escalate the conflict so that everybody loses.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So do Russia just let them attack and destroy important and expensive infrastructure?

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

In this case, expensive yes, important no. It had no strategic value, it was a very nice looking, historic but essentially empty building. It has not been used as an actual HQ for a long time. These are symbolic pinpricks that do nothing to change the course of the war. It is telling that they attack soft targets like this which are only weakly or not at all defended. We see this pattern repeated over and over. They couldn't hit the active navy so they hit some old ship in drydock that was under repair for another six months anyway. They couldn't hit the airfields from where Russia launches its bombers every day so they hit some backwoods airfield with unused transport planes on it. None of these attacks have any impact on the operations at the front, they are purely morale boosting exercises for the domestic front in Ukraine and the West.

Russia doesn't "let them", they just prioritize their defenses where it actually matters. You have to understand that this is a war against an enemy with the entire ISR complex of NATO at its disposal. Sooner or later they will get lucky and get in a hit or two. It is inevitable but also irrelevant. Furthermore pay attention to the time it takes them to plan, prepare and stockpile for attacks of this kind. The most they can do is about one of these symbolic propaganda hits a month and that takes a lot of effort and hugely expensive resources that they are not spending doing actually meaningful damage. In this case they expended a large number of extremely expensive cruise missiles that the West gave them yet only managed to damage an unused building. They had to fabricate an absurd fairy tale about killing X number of generals in order to justify wasting their scarce resources like this.

This is a pale imitation of the equally pointless but much more deadly V-weapon rocket attacks that the Nazis launched toward the end of WW2. They are acts of desperation and frustration at their impotence to change the situation on the battlefield that is inevitably heading toward their defeat.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

I hate fascists so much

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

It was neither a "very important" nor "strategic" target. In fact there is no evidence that it had any strategic value at all. This article is pure cope.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

More symbolic attacks that accomplish nothing. As expected from fascists: bravado without substance.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The Ukrainians could destroy the entire black sea fleet and they'd still lose the war.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The point isn't about Ukraine losing anymore. (Because Russian victory is inevitable.) It's more of when and how much more is Russia willing to sacrifice for that victory? (In my opinion, they've sacrificed too much already)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I recommend reading this subtack article, keep in mind the author is pro-Russian. However he fairly criticizes Russia whenever it slacks up, he details with great evidence, with credible sources, on how the Ukrainians attacked, what the significance behind are, and why these attacks keep happening. https://simplicius76.substack.com/p/analysis-of-ukraines-escalating-crimean