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To be fair, most of the world is unsalvagable at this point.
I appreciate posts like this. It's nice to see people calling out this shit.
Every time I see so-called "progressives" talking about succeeding from the union or writing off southern states, I feel incredibly terrified and abandoned as a queer person born and raised in Texas.
So... What? I just get to die? I'm just an "unfortunate casualty" Collateral? I get it's tiresome. I get it's scary what's happening. But don't call yourself an ally if you're not willing to fight tooth and nail for us. Cause I guarantee, if states started succeeding, it would be game fuckin', over for a lot of minorities. There would be no way out of the shit holes we're trapped in, and nobody to speak up or fight for us when they start actually shipping us off to "Wellness Farms."
(Painfully) agree with the first part, second part misses the mark imo. My neighborhood is better because it doesn't have as many racists in it.
My opinion is that we are all people and the southerners have been steeped in racist and capitalist propaganda for a very long time. Their media environment is turning them racist and afraid to the point where the effort needs to turn them around would be extreme. We don't need to abandon our Southern brothers and sisters, but one we get power we should begin reconstruction reeducation. And just accept that a lot of them are too far gone for saving.
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They're not unsalvagable, but they won't be the vanguard either. They will come when the tide starts to turn, so efforts need to be put at tide turning. Expect local efforts. Local efforts are critical everywhere.
People can forget that when it comes to the South, this is a real old front.
We're tired, and all this ride or die republicanism is because we're still here. We need the help
As someone living in the heart of South Louisiana.
The Southern States are lost and we need to focus on trying to get people out instead of trying to change the minds of a bunch of xenophobic hicks.
I'm 100% for breaking up the union and expelling the Republican states.
I really hate that the country is so bad I agree with you on this
It truly is sad, but people's minds won't be swayed without totally restructuring our economic and political systems which dictate their material interests, and that won't happen without a total revolutionary war against the system. I don't like it anymore than the next person but that's just the logical conclusion to the reality we exist in.
Humans, as a species, are generally very stupid, selfish, and simplistic with short attention spans. We all simply want the easiest and most effective way to meet our material needs, regardless if a less convenient method would have better results, unless we actively train ourselves, through years of education, to be in the habit of going against our instincts and thinking critically about the world around us.
Unfortunately, due to our current systems, many people have tied their ability to meet those needs with the economic interests of the owning class, which intrinsically is oppositional to the needs of the working class. Most don't understand that the small gains from doing so are simply going to be funneled towards the owning class anyway. Yet, it allows them to be better off than others and that is enough to scare them into contentment with their lot in life.
Additionally, the system is designed to be so convoluted that those who are uneducated in how it fundamentally works can readily be convinced of certain falsehoods, such as increasing wages results in increased price of goods or that immigrants are "stealing jobs", because they simply have no understanding of how those claims are blatant falsehoods.
And they don't question it, because it plays on the inherent flaws of human psychology by appealing to basal fears of the unfamiliar and playing on how our minds are predisposed to certain logical fallacies.
I am 100% against giving Republicans political sovereignty and adjacent territory.
We don't need to be changing the minds of xenophobic fucks but we do need to take their political power. Red state governments can and will cause problems for you no matter where you live.
We got brick oven pizza and craft brews down here too tho
Those regressive polices many wright off the south for exist in the rest of the country, but in different forms better suited to the context of the area. They come across as particularly brutal and overt to other areas simply because they’re not tailored to be hidden from them.
Idc I'm not American I just want you guys to collapse so each state is its own country and maybe have a European union style relationship with each other so that y'all stop being so internationally inflammatory. Stg the main reason for considering learning a language other than English is to enter a conversation that defaults to excluding Americans.
That would just multiply the amount of inflammatory incidents we would start by fifty
My only problem with the point this image is making, is that it doesn't matter if we are supportive or dismissive.
They're still, as a whole, as a group, going to be terrible people.
Compassion fatigue is a real thing, and while I don't want anything bad to happen to anyone, you can only save somebody from themselves so many times before you realize they're going to do bad things and nothing can stop them.
Fuck this.
Let's be real bare bones about this.
In Tennessee, 2 million people voted for Trump.
1 million voted for Harris.
The vibe is, "Those 1 million people can't fix their situation so they should be just as fucked as the other 2."
And that's wrong. It's wrong to condemn whole swaths of humanity based on where they live, but even if you're dick enough to say "FAFO" when real humans suffer, you shouldn't be willing to throw your own allies under the bus based on arbitrary lines on the ground.
And I'm a first responder, don't talk to me about compassion fatigue, it's not an excuse not to help someone who needs it.
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I want to add that these people usually vote R because they're told it's the right thing to do, not because they actually understand what they're voting for or against. When asked about policy, they generally agree with leftist policies. If we get the chance to show them that leftist policies actually work and what they are, we may stand a chance to change their minds.
That's why I think the NYC mayoral election is pretty important. If he's elected he can actually do good things that Democrats and Republicans have told people to be scared of. He can show that people have been lied to and it's actually good. The problem will be getting this information to the uninformed voters. They'll hear about it, but it'll mostly only be that it's bad, actually, and they won't hear about the victories.
I don’t think we’re responsible for anywhere near enough compassion to be fatigued by it
TIL about compassion fatigue.
Here's an idea: focus your attention on your community. Join an organization and build coalitions locally. Do the work to improve the material conditions of those around you, acting in good faith with solidarity toward your neighbors.
Then, when you've realized how inane and pointless it is to generalize about populations numbering into the millions, mind your own fucking business and quit wishing ill on people you will never meet. Compassion fatigue is your problem, and calling the population of an entire state terrible is just bullshit no matter which way you cut it.
We don't need your kindness, we don't need saving, we need cooperation and community. If that's not in your wheelhouse, then keep to yourself.
Signed, a "terrible" floridian who's fed up with dipshit northerners telling me that I deserve to die in a hurricane because my governor sucks.
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At this point I'm just hoping for reduced federal influence over blue states and measures to help out refugees from the places whose own state governments are working against them.
I've written off the entire states as unsalvageable (unless broken up) as someone from the northern Provinces
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