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[-] [email protected] 10 points 23 hours ago

For all those little bitches.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 20 hours ago

Phone makers need to add LoRa radios to phones. Something like this would be more useful then.

[-] [email protected] 33 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Ingenious name. I feel like Bitchat should be connected somehow with PenIsland.

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[-] [email protected] 23 points 1 day ago

There is already a really good foss app that does exactly that, it's called briar and is as secure and private as it gets. The downside with p2p communication apps being, that they eat your phones battery for breakfast. Still a good option for activists or journalists I think. It's a good way to get around the "server in the middle" problem. Still more convenient to run your own (xmpp) server at home imho...

[-] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

** for Android (and Windows/macOS/Linux) but not iOS.

And apparently never going to be as some key component is written in Java. Other technical obstacles should be solvable (like f.ex. getting continuous running in bg by exploiting location services like iSH can do)

[-] [email protected] 1 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

Thanks, I did not realise that. So this app is for Mac to Mac communication only. If seems for briar you need to run a server still or messages will get lost between mobile users. How does this new app solve that problem? On mobile phones disconnects will happen regularly as network coverage changes and different network towers connect and disconnect when you are on the move. You might as well spin up your own xmpp server at that point, as that protocol is tried and tested for over 20 years and very lightweight and battery friendly as well...

[-] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago

don't nazis already have telegram

[-] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago

Now they have a second option.

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[-] [email protected] 18 points 1 day ago

I once did some programming on the Cybiko, a device from 2000 that could form a wireless mesh network with peers. The idea was that you could have a shopping mall full of teens and they'd be able to chat with each other from one end to the other by routing through the mesh. It was a neat device!

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[-] [email protected] 2 points 20 hours ago

We already have Briar. I don't get why Jack Dorsey is trying to get into the messaging space so hard. He also bankrolls SimpleX Chat if anyone is familiar with that platform

[-] [email protected] 22 points 1 day ago

If you're in Bluetooth range can't you chat with your mouths? Or is it for secretly chatting when you're in a group of people? I don't get the use case.

[-] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago

It's not about you being in bluetooth range of the person you want to talk to, it's about all the people sitting in between you both that pass the message along without touching the internet.

So you can be on a cargo ship, or on a remote island, with 20 other people and all use chat. If 1 person has internet, then you can all chat globally as well.

It's the same basic method of how airtags work. Everyone with an iPhone connects to the airtag and passes data to Apple. It's just done in the background, so users don't ever notice.

[-] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago

Could be useful on a plane: If you have different seats than someone and don't want to pay for your airline's ridiculous data prices. Although, most airlines I fly on(american, delta, air canada, united) all have free RCS/Facebook/Whatsapp, but not necessarily Signal, Telegram, Matrix, or your preferred secure service.

[-] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago

Bluetooth ranges are quite large now.

But an example even if someone is a foot away would be a concert or event where it's to loud.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

I have no idea if this is correct. But imagine if you have a setup like Apple’s AirTag. Except when you receive a signal (message) you also relay it to whoever’s path you cross for the next X amount of time. The more people using the app the bigger the mesh network gets.

[-] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago

Have a look at meshtastic. Yes, you do have to get a separate device, but range on it can be several tens to hundreds of miles depending on the mesh density.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Yeah my first thought when I read the headline was "why not just use meshtastic?"

[-] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

In practice range seems to be a few kilometers, in places with lots of nodes.

[-] [email protected] 15 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

The best app to Bitch At things.

[-] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago

Neat idea 10 years ago "discovered" recently by a tech bro who thinks he's the first one to think of it. He got his clicks, I guess.

[-] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago

No one has got it right yet though. Being apple only, he hasn’t either.

[-] [email protected] 16 points 1 day ago
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[-] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago

Aside from the fact that he made twitter (which I blame in large part for how our political/news media landscape, as well as modern discourse, has become so thoughtless), left and made blue sky, then left blue sky and endorsed twitter?

The dude supports a ton of toxic shit and can get entirely fucked.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 15 hours ago

Lol he endorsed Twitter after leaving Bluesky? That's an interesting series of events.

Yeah I think Twitter has been a net negative for society.

[-] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago

I'm happy to see a niche decentralized thing from Jack more than if it was another commercial start-up. And I have nothing against yet another bluetooth chat. But I'm not impressed. In the whitepaper nothing is written about spam protection, so it wouldn't work as a reliable P2P app at scale. And the UI... It's mere a toy for Jack's personal nostalgia about "the good old times". And nostalgia driven development doesn't work in general, I would say.

[-] [email protected] 75 points 2 days ago

Bitch At

Lmao

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[-] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago

I read it like that first and thought it was one of these illegal apps to track your partner without them knowing.

[-] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago

Seems rehashed, with more enshittification likely to be baked in. Typical tech bros.

[-] [email protected] 155 points 2 days ago

Let's build an app to liberate communications but only release it inside a closed garden. Great idea

[-] [email protected] 3 points 21 hours ago

In the context of the US fascist dictatorship and Apple being the dominant smartphone there, starting with Apple makes sense.

If it can be done within Apples curated monopoly, it will be technically possible on Android (probably).

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[-] [email protected] 55 points 2 days ago

messaging app that works over Bluetooth mesh networks. No internet

So he's made a shitty version of Briar and crammed crypto into it?

[-] [email protected] 1 points 21 hours ago

In this context I think "crypto" means your message is encrypted across hops, not that you have to pay to send/receive messages.

[-] [email protected] 20 points 1 day ago

Briar doesn’t have an iOS client an never will

This doesn’t have an android client 😀

[-] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

Interesting. I wonder why Briar won't have an iOS client?

[-] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

I'm sure the background limitations are a big part, but I wonder if there's also limits to what they can do with bluetooth

[-] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago

Like I said, Briar is better

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