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[-] [email protected] 5 points 1 hour ago

Tonight @ 9: Conservative blames anyone or anything except themselves for their problems.

[-] [email protected] 11 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

Her medical documents did in fact say abortion, she had an abortion. Use whatever mental gymnastics she wants, but factually - She had an abortion, the very thing they have and are wanting to ban.

Any person with even the smallest spark in their brain going through this can figure this out.

There are thousand of abortions performed every day on people who want to be a parent more than anything in the world, people going through IVF and fertility treatments have a high chance of ectopic pregnancies. If you actually understand this, it's obvious how insane she is.

[-] [email protected] 21 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

I read the WSJ article and she is absolutely infuriating. Her reasoning contains several fallacies:

False Cause:

"It was absolute fearmongering at its worst"

She blames political messaging instead of considering that vague legal language created legitimate professional uncertainty.

Straw Man:

"There will be some comments like, 'Well, thank God we have abortion services,' even though what I went through wasn't an abortion"

This is particularly frustrating. Advocates aren't celebrating her needing an "abortion", they're pointing out her experience is exactly what they predicted: doctors hesitating due to legal uncertainty. She had to argue with staff, pull up laws on her phone, and call the governor's office during a medical emergency. That's the system breakdown advocates warned about, not a misunderstanding of medical definitions.

False Dilemma:

"We have turned the conversation about women's healthcare into two camps: pink hats and pink ribbons. It's either breast cancer or abortion."

This drastically oversimplifies complex healthcare policy into just two opposing sides and the irony is staggering. It's like a company ignoring safety advocates' warnings about a confusing manual, then when accidents happen, blaming those advocates for 'scaring' workers instead of fixing the manual.

She lived the very scenario abortion rights advocates had been warning about all along, yet somehow, in her mind, the problem isn’t the law, it’s the people who tried to stop it from hurting her in the first place.

[-] [email protected] 22 points 4 hours ago

She's not stupid. She's using the media to manipulate stupid people so that her party remains in power. She knows exactly what a hypocrite she is, and she doesn't care. These people don't actually stand for anything other than wealth and power.

[-] [email protected] 16 points 5 hours ago

She should have stood by her religious and political principles, and just rode it out. It was God's, and MAGA's, will to put her through that ordeal, and he expected her to accept her fate.

Instead, she defied The MAGA Lord and fought to have a Democratic abortion. She's a Democrat now, destined for an eternity in a fiery torturous Hell. May God have mercy on her damned Democratic Soul.

/S, nobody really believes that nonsense.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 5 hours ago

I didn’t realize there were pro-lifers that accepted “it’s not an abortion if the fetus wasn’t going to be viable”. You could pretty easily extend that to full term. Hell with medical debt, I don’t see how there’s much chance in a lot of cases even post partum.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 3 hours ago

I'm not really sure it's a "news flash" that these people aren't particularly "sharp".

[-] [email protected] 8 points 5 hours ago

I have to wonder if the Doctors weren't trolling her a bit. She had an ectopic pregnancy at 5 weeks. Not only is the abortion necessary, it was within the six-week limit, so it was perfectly legal on all counts. So why would they claim they were confused about the law?

I suspect they wanted to teach an arrogant Florida Republican a lesson about politics encroaching on the medical decisions between a doctor and their patient, and made her jump through a bunch of hoops first, just to make her feel the fear, anxiety, anger, and frustration of the average citizen whose medical care is being dictated by MAGA Nazis.

Remember, we are only hearing the side of a professional MAGA Nazi, so she's a proven liar.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 10 minutes ago* (last edited 9 minutes ago)

The 5 weeks pregnant vs 6 week ban is a bit more ambiguous than you might think.

The Florida 6 week ban calculates the 6 weeks from the first day of the last menstrual period, not from fetal size or date of conception. https://abortiondefensenetwork.org/wp-content/uploads/2025/04/Florida-April-2025-2-1.pdf

In general, ovulation occurs 12-17 days into the menstrual cycle. Florida's ban is more like a 3 to 4 week ban than a 6 week.

Edit: spelled ban as can once

[-] [email protected] 5 points 4 hours ago

That would have some significant medical ethics issues. She nearly died. Do no harm, and that's regardless of the patient's political ideology.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 4 hours ago

"roughly five weeks"

Since weeks are counted from the beginning of her last period, not conception, this operation must have happened within one week of her missed period. Perhaps it wasn't so clearly within the law.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 4 hours ago

It's a shame she didn't die. Or at the very least learn something from this experience.

[-] [email protected] 11 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

Cult members will never blame their beliefs, they'll just perform mental gymnastics to blame critics.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 3 hours ago

should have died.

[-] [email protected] 15 points 14 hours ago
[-] [email protected] 55 points 18 hours ago

This is like someone dying from COVID denying it on their deathbed.

You can't fix stupid.

[-] [email protected] 37 points 15 hours ago

My friend is a doctor and said that the number of people denying COVID is real while they died in the hospital is... significantly higher than 0.

It blew my mind that they could literally be hours away from death and still submitted it was a "liberal hoax". I just...can't.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 4 hours ago

my colleague was one of these. We held a socially distanced ceremony at the office for him. Fucking bleak as hell.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 5 hours ago

I remember seeing something about a person telling the doctor to go to hell as they were being intubated and just thinking, "No, that'd be you."

[-] [email protected] 11 points 15 hours ago

Evolution in action. Still sad.

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[-] [email protected] 5 points 3 hours ago

Unfortunately, stupid breeds too fast for nature to fix it.

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[-] [email protected] 26 points 17 hours ago

This really is a great example of being a special kind of stupid.

[-] [email protected] 38 points 19 hours ago

No one is gonna arrest her for murdering a child because she couldn’t carry it to term?

[-] [email protected] 113 points 22 hours ago

Wonder what was different about her abortion.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 5 hours ago

SHE needed one. That's the only reason. The answer was No for everyone else, but Yes for her. Nobody can kill babies but her.

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[-] [email protected] 20 points 18 hours ago

It was hers, as opposed to someone else's.

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[-] [email protected] 35 points 19 hours ago

This is why The Onion is so hard to differentiate from reality any more.

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[-] [email protected] 9 points 15 hours ago

Blame democrats, blame democrats, there not even a real party anyway.

[-] [email protected] 12 points 17 hours ago

I take pleasure in her pain hurting her own cause

[-] [email protected] 30 points 21 hours ago

The mere idea that anyone has to perform a medical procedure on a pregnant woman relating to the pregnancy and hesitates, proves that the law is the issue.

Someone will undoubtedly try to get a bill passed somewhere that starts labeling any removal of a fetus from a woman as abortion when the medical community is telling you that is not the case. These anti-abortion supporters want woman to get pregnant and stay pregnant. They don’t care if you have medical complications that lead to death. To think they care is just a lost cause.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 5 hours ago

Perfectly valid, until one of those that are making the rules and sentencing women to death by pregnancy are suddenly faced with it themselves. Then the hypocrisy starts.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

Now that gets into Brave New World territory. They didn’t make it illegal (at least that I recall)… but it was a taboo to be part of a family. Some point in British society started using eugenics to create humans. Sexual promiscuity was expected among women (they hinted that monogamy was also taboo) but becoming a parent was no go.

EDIT: I wouldn’t recommend Brave New World. Huxley falls in line with contemporary beliefs about indigenous Americans that is downright racist today.

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