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Yes I know China is also technically capitalist but you understand the idea

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[-] [email protected] 17 points 1 week ago

I’d trade all parking spots for more trains in my city.

[-] [email protected] 15 points 1 week ago

I guess the rest of Asia and Europe don't count?

[-] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago

As much as I love Amtrak, I have to agree.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

I always find it strange when I find someone in the wild who likes Amtrak. I have only heard and experienced horror stories.

[-] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

They've been solid for me. I used to take the Acela between NYC and Baltimore all the time. It was faster than flying when comparing door-to-door times, cheaper, no fucking TSA, and it had a bar car. Also took one from Portland to BC recently which was legit.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I've ridden on Amtrak's business class on the NEC or sleepers outside thbide corridor since I was a child. So, I have a bit of a bias.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago

I took the Empire Builder from Seattle to Chicago, and then I forget which through W Va up to Philly. It was a great few days watching the countryside roll by.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I've had great rides... But the problems are more like underfunding, overpricing, underavailability, etc.

[-] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago

Really, your example for the "free market" transportation in the US is Amtrack? ... in a car community?

This is just a tanky shitpost.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago

In an anti car community. Considering the US proudly proclaims itself the champion of the free market, yeah, it's only fitting to use Amtrak as the example.

[-] [email protected] -1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

yeah, it’s only fitting to use Amtrak as the example.

Or you know ... a car? Because then it would at least be relevant to this community.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

...the post is intended to portray the difference in trains -- the logical, excellent, and much preferable alternative to cars. They're excellent everywhere else but absolute shite in the supposed pinnacle of the free market.

[-] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago

For some reason, people still act like capitalism and socialism (or communism) are mutually exclusive, that an economy must be one or the other. But if you look at essentially every national economy on the planet today, they are all some mix of the socialist mode of production (when the means of production are owned by the government, or a group of workers, or a community) and the capitalist mode of production (when the means of production are owned by a private individual or group of investors, operating for a profit). Almost no economy is exclusively one or the other.

It is true that in most countries with robust high speed rail, there is significant government involvement, like planning and building infrastructure, subsidies, or just providing rail travel as a public service. I definitely think that for a national rail service network to work, you need to do some planning. Here in the US, government and planning are bad words, but clearly they needn't be.

[-] [email protected] 14 points 1 week ago

Social programs are not Socialism. The government doing stuff is not Socialism. You cannot take aspects of a society out of their context and analyze them discretely. The United States does not have a "Socialist" millitary. Socialism is a mode of production determined by public ownership being the principle aspect of the economy, ie large firms and key industries being firmly public, as opposed to Capitalism where private ownership is the principle aspect.

[-] [email protected] -2 points 1 week ago

Socialism is a mode of production determined by public ownership

That's what I'm talking about. Essentially every national economy on the planet includes at least some socialist production. I can't think of a single national economy on the Earth where the production of all goods and services is carried out exclusively by privately owned, for-profit firms. Can you?

[-] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago

Public Ownership is not Socialism itself, but a component of a Socialist economy. An economy where public ownership controls the large firms and key industries, ie has genuine political control, is Socialist.

No system is purely public or private, hence the line of demarcation between Socialist countries and Capitalist countries is where political power is vested.

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[-] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Socialism and communism are not when the state does stuff.

Socialism/communism is workers owning the means of production. This is exceedingly rare and constantly attacked whenever it exists. Almost every state is overwhelmingly capitalist. That's a primary purpose of the state.

[-] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago

Long term rule by a single party dedicated to improving infrastructure would do that. Let's not kid ourselves that the CCP is all sunshine and rainbows though.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago

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