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submitted 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

That's like saying "I'm pro-life and anti-gun control".

Oh. Wait.

Edit: Guy confirmed that he is, indeed, pro-life and anti-gun control.

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[-] [email protected] 16 points 5 days ago

I'm pro bike and anti bike lane.

The entire street should be for bikes only

[-] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago

That's what happens in my city, people hella mad about it

[-] [email protected] 2 points 16 hours ago

Car users arent people.

[-] [email protected] 13 points 5 days ago

You lie. That's how. They aren't pro bike they are just saying it to make their point

[-] [email protected] 78 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I'm anti bike lane. Roads should be for bikes and pedestrians. Cars should get their own single separated lane on the occasional road.

Bike lanes are car infrastructure. They are not needed unless you consider the entire street to be for cars by default.

Also dave is an idiot. Maximum capacity would be a cycle and transit only street because those have the highest throughput per lane. Cars are incredibly space inefficient.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 10 hours ago

Bike lanes are car infrastructure. They are not needed unless you consider the entire street to be for cars by default.

They're better when they protect cyclists from cars with more than paint. I ride, and I'm less of an arsehole to drivers when I have a separated lane with as good or better rights than the cars

I would like to see streets slowed down and bike infrastructure better protected on roads. I don't need bike lanes on streets, as almost all of them are pretty safe for cyclists — drivers seem happy to go slower and leave metres of space when passing

[-] [email protected] 30 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Slight disagreement there. Streets are for pedestrians and bikes and trams and the occasional car (in a dedicated car lane). Roads (as in large arterial roads in very limited areas, meant for fast travel between faraway zones when trains are inconvenient, or highways between cities) can be considered as intended for cars, and even those should have pretty good space dedicated to bike lanes and pedestrian sidewalks.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Given that a car is a priviledge in most (all?) of the world, I'd argue there should be absolutely zero car-only infrastructure because it creates second class citizens for which some parts of the street are inaccesible.

Think of it this way, would you support the creation of a sidewalk in which only people who own a 50k ring can go?

[-] [email protected] 1 points 16 hours ago

Only because its funny. Yes.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 5 days ago

A bus in a kind of car. Biking 30km in one go is a bit much too.

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[-] [email protected] 43 points 6 days ago

Bike lanes suck. Separated bike paths are much better. Or just streets without cars at all, no need for a bike lane if there are no cars.

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[-] [email protected] 13 points 5 days ago

Some of them are against bike lanes because they say it gives drivers a false sense of entitlement and cyclists a false sense of security when they're supposed to be sharing the road.

That doesn't sound like this guy, though.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 10 hours ago

I ride an odd bike, a recumbent. I have seen a few cars watching me rather than the road, which is good for me — they give me loads of space — but bad for anyone ahead of me as the drivers show no lane control for a good 50m after they pass me. Where that happened most recently is also where a driver killed a cyclist by wandering into the bike lane despite having a six metre wide lane to themselves (even the cycle lane there is three metres wide)

[-] [email protected] 41 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Vehicular cyclists are the fucking worst. I find that they fall into two groups:

  • "The John Forrester", generally oldhat nerds festooned with side mirrors and blinking lights and fluoro vests who are basically at the point of cosplaying as a car.
  • "The Dentist", young and middle-aged guys with money for whom cycling is purely a sport and nothing else, who annually dump $20K into prebuilt bikes and clothing like it's nothing.

Either way they're almost 100% athletic white men who for some reason never picked up on the fact that cycling in a car culture is a near-perfect analogy / example of what it's like to be a marginalized minority and a first-hand demonstration of privilege. Instead they're defenders of the status quo - By way of their own athletic, gender, or monetary privilege - All the way to their bloody meat crayon deaths. They're that one asshole who shows up to the community board meeting about a new bike lane that will make cycling accessible for children, the elderly, and any person in between who is more risk-averse or less athletic than they are in order to speak against it "As a cyclist". Because to them battling for your life in traffic, being on the bleeding edge of death, breathing in truck exhaust from the shoulder of a stroad is a gatekeeping measure. They're masochistic elites, they rake pride in the danger that they put themselves in so much that they'd deny accessibility to anyone else unwilling to accept that danger.

Gordon Ramsey is an example of someone in the dentist group. A few years ago he very nearly got meat crayoned by a car while cycling in the US. He didn't provide the details of the crash but it was obvious from his injuries that he'd been hit from the side by a car or truck and likely went over the hood. His public plea in revealing this wasn't that the US needs to make roads safer for cyclists, or more accessible to people who don't have a group of equally wealthy friends to peloton around a foreign country with, maybe separating cars from cyclists so that the two may never conflict. His one and only adamant request was that we all wear a helmet. Cycling is wasted on these myopic asshats.

Oh bother, I've gone and ranted again.

[-] [email protected] 10 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Hey, i fall into the dentist group! But i totally advocate for bike lanes, and i'm not white...

There are dozens of us at the local critical mass ride!!! I make it a point to show up in my ridiculous spandex gear to show people the dentists aren't all assholes. Also, good spandex is really comfy.

Why the hate?? Yeah i sunk a lot of money into my hobby, but thats what people do. People spend tens of thousands on camera gear, gaming rigs, etc. Why hate on others' expensive hobbies?

I'm actually not that rich, but living car free and biking every day has allowed me to allocate a lot of money towards my hobbies. Cars are a total money sink... 10yrs ago it was around $6k/year TCO. I'm sure it's more now...

You should put an additional qualifier on your dentist description.... Carries their $20k bike on top of their $80k SUV. Drives 2 hours out of the city just to ride around for an hour...

[-] [email protected] 2 points 10 hours ago

Car drivers telling cyclists they spend too much :D

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[-] [email protected] 4 points 5 days ago

Have you been outside of the first world recently? Here in Mexico, cyclists are mostly old people with backpacks filled with tools on their way to fix a sink.

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[-] [email protected] 5 points 6 days ago

Either way they're almost 100% athletic white men

Someone has never been to Europe.

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[-] [email protected] 14 points 6 days ago

Got a friend this way. He hates bikes on the road. And yells to get on the greenways etc. Cause slow his lifted f150, that he needs to commute and get groceries, down for 30 seconds. The bike then get on the greenway and then he bitches they go too fast there.

Also he weighs about 300 lbs and doesn’t work out in any way.

[-] [email protected] 11 points 5 days ago

Pro-life + anti-gun control = pro-birth.

[-] [email protected] 5 points 5 days ago

Or in other words: He's pro after-birth abortions.

[-] [email protected] 6 points 5 days ago

Birth them all; let school shooters sort them out

[-] [email protected] 0 points 16 hours ago

No, thats too messy. Cars cull the weak outside, where cleanup is easier.

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[-] [email protected] 21 points 6 days ago

"it's simple math" - read about that expression on Facebook, never actually had math themselves as they were home schooled in creationism and flat earth.

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[-] [email protected] 18 points 6 days ago

You all need to visit the Netherlands.

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[-] [email protected] 6 points 5 days ago

This is funny to me because the one time I was in NYC, the streets were empty but the sidewalks were congested as fuck.

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[-] [email protected] 4 points 5 days ago

That's obvious. He pays to use Twitter.

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