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I tried to watch "Černo-NE-byľ" but the English captions only went so far and my Russian isn't that good yet

The narrative goes that it was the KPSS that tried to obscure what happened, but I want to know the ML side of the story.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

i don't have much to add to this topic, besides pointing out it was 1986, soviet union was... you know

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

Deteriorating

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

In terms of technical/scientific explanations of what happened, I think Scott Manley and Kyle Hill have done great videos on that.

In terms of the political side, I think it was Viki1999 who did a video discussing that a bit more. It could have been another lefty YouTuber though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MbE031mVuJI

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm hesitant to watch videos on Chernobyl from Kyle Hill.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Wait that nerd science guy makes stuff about real things? I thought he just did superhero stuff

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Right before Russia's special operation, Kyle developed a supreme fascination with Chernobyl. I haven't watched any of his videos because I have a feeling it'll be neoliberal nonsense.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

not really, he's very focused on the scientific details, i cant remember him talkimg about the political side at all.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

i share the same worries, not with that channel specifically but the things in general, we are seeing history being rewritten to demonize russia ever since the SMO.

like i found a channel about aviation, that basically all videos since the start of the smo were about russia/soviet union fuckups or that the red army strength was just a show, not real.

the same principle applies to everything else about soviet union

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

A YouTube link was detected in your comment. Here are links to the same video on Invidious, which is a YouTube frontend that protects your privacy:

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

It's a story of questionable reactor design, abysmal safety practices/culture, heroic responders, and government denials to try to save face on the international stage.

Chernobyl #4 was an RBMK-1000 reactor, which is a graphite moderated light-water cooled design. This is an important distinction to make, compared to water moderated/water cooled designs. This page (specifically the void coefficient section) explains the relevant science, but essentially, the RBMK-1000 design does not include one of the critical design safety features of most Western reactor designs.

Couple this missing design safety feature with the absence of safety culture and a lack of adherence to thoroughly written and reviewed procedures, and it's unfortunately no real surprise that there was such a disaster.

The immediate response is full of stories of the bravery of workers and first responders, some of whom made the ultimate sacrifice to ensure the disaster did not get worse.

[Disclaimer: this is the part I'm least familiar with] And the government did all they could to sweep the incident under the rug and avoid the West learning about it, as is their MO (this attitude has persisted into the 21st Century, even. See: The Kursk disaster in 2000