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[–] [email protected] 5 points 13 hours ago

Mazda false DMCA takedown notice Home Assistant App

That's a bunch of words, yes.

[–] [email protected] 46 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Soon this all will be much easier. From 12 of September we’re going into a new world of EU Data Act that forces all companies to allow third parties to communicate with iot devices. Which a car is.

So soon Mazda will need to provide those APIs in an official way.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

That sounds fantastic! Mind sharing any articles on it, please?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Thing is there’s somehow not much coverage on this topic in the media. I only got our internal corporate documents because at our place we’re preparing for it for months already. Its not that easy to invite third parties to a big piece of your cloud iot setup.

EDIT: here is longer but good source. The law came into power somewhere last year but companies had some extra time to prepare their shit which times out September 12

https://digital-strategy.ec.europa.eu/en/factpages/data-act-explained

[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 day ago

There's a new world order, let the buyer beware. Even when you can afford it, they will change it so you can't.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 day ago (2 children)

The only text on that page that states the origin of the dev's code is Mazda's claim that the relevant code is Mazda's. If their claim is true, then it would seem to me the DMCA takedown is valid.

The reason the DMCA takedown notice is malicious is that code from Mazda's official app is not required to develop a tool that works in a similar way. The API of the server is freely accessible and figuring out how to interact with it can be done completely without infringing on anyone's copyright.

Okay, it doesn't matter how it could have been done, it matters how it was done, and again, the only claim made on the page is that it was stolen code.

I'm all for actually owning what you buy and being able to integrate it with your other stuff however you please, but distributing someone else's work is a valid claim for infringement. And as with any other cloud-based stuff, don't expect it to work forever. Support and push for local device access without the need for cloud services.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 12 hours ago

Claiming that some open source code is really proprietary is pretty bold. I suppose they could prove that by releasing their code, but to me it smells like they've been using open source code without attributing it for a while. And now they're trying to solve this problem by taking down the original.

Honestly, an assertion that open source code is really stolen seems pretty easy to prove wrong.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 1 day ago

As per the DMCA listed in the reference:

MNAO analyzed some of the code and determined that the code provides functionality same as what is currently in Apple App Store and Google Play App Store.

Here’s a fork that’s still up and explains how the DMCA request was made based off of functionality and not proprietary code.

https://github.com/runDMCA/home-assistant-mazda

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I wish the devs would just ignore the corporations. Refuse to let life and joy be damaged by some cuntish entity.

Mazda is asshole

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 hours ago

They want to ignore corporations but they can't. Sad reality