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[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Given its in-court defense of Google, Mozilla is clearly complicit and its products should be boycotted. It's a shame it's the only alternative to Chromium, but I'm perfectly fine with the US government cracking down on Google, no matter the consequences for Firefox. The monopoly must be disrupted for the benefit of every internet user.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

Mozilla gets money from Google, I'm not too surprised

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago (2 children)

What did mozilla do? waterfox and librewolf still safe?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I wrote up what happened (more stuff on my blog).

TL;DR they use aggregated data for ads and they felt like they needed to have an explicit opt-in.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

thanks alot man

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

they changed their ToS to allow themselves to collect some anonymous user data, no idea if they've started

the waterfox and librewolf are still safe

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

i have done some research and they are not very specific about what data they are collecting, will they collect users password/bookmarks? i thought sync is encrypted and server is impossible to decrypt user's data? so what data are they collecting exactly?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

I don't think they've started collecting data but they might in the future.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 days ago

Great read, making me question if my immediate switch to Librewolf was premature.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago (2 children)

If it’s so great for Privacy, why does it support DNS over HTTPS?

Taking name resolution control away from the user and the OS is NOT a benefit to your privacy. Especially since bad actors can and do exploit DNS for data exfiltration.

(And yes, you can disable it.. FOR NOW.)

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago

I don't see any inherent problem with the two things you say are problems: neither DoH, nor the idea that a browser can override default settings.

I'm not a fan of defaulting to Cloudflare, but this seems more like a case of picking your poison. Somebody's going to get a crack at the domains you're visiting, are they not? It seems better to encrypt these queries than to allow a middleman to intercept them.

Regarding override default system settings, is this really a problem? I prefer browsers that give people extra options, and I would find it worse if they suddenly took this option away.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

If it’s so great for Privacy, why does it support DNS over HTTPS?

DNS queries can be and are logged by public WiFi access points and ISPs. DoH cannot.

Taking name resolution control away from the user and the OS is NOT a benefit to your privacy.

It doesn't take anything away. It's just a default. If you don't want DoH, then just turn it off.

(And yes, you can disable it.. FOR NOW.)

So you're okay with the current situation and are complaining about some hypothetical future that you are theorizing might materialize?