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[–] 31 points 2 years ago (1 child)

You know things are bad when the leader of 12,000 men tried to get one guy in order to surrender to him. Based on Bucha, I understand why they didn't want to surrender to the Russians.

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  • [–] [S] 18 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    There was also the whole getting sent to "work camps" thing...

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  • [+] -18 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    The British ran concentration camps too.

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  • [–] [S] 28 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Up to a million German soldiers died in Soviet captivity. Being in Allied captivity was a walk in the park in comparison.

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  • [+] -18 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    And many millions of Soviet citizens and communists in general were murdered by nazis.

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  • [–] [S] 14 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I don't see anybody denying this here but it's also not really the topic of the discussion.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Yeah, I think even the most fervent USSR hater should be able to acknowledge their heavy losses in WW2. They may not have won the whole war themselves or anything, but they did make many sacrifices for those battles.

    I'd even go so far as to say that if one's opinions were to lead one towards disrespecting their dead, who were just defending their homes, then one may have an unusually strong personal bias.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (1 child)

    Your point is? We aren't talking about the British. Everyone knows they've done horrible things. But it doesn't give a pass for others.

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  • Torture camps are awful no matter who is doing it, yes. You are incorrect in inferring that I’m defending either party there.

    We are talking about history, Germany and Britain here so go and police someone else’s conversation.

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  • [–] 17 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Russians have been on par, or worse, to surrender to compared to the WW2 Japanese for almost a hundred years.

    Unlawful killing, warcrimes, and rape are accepted russian doctrine.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    And they will call you a nazi if you talk about it. This was barely discussed before the invasion of Ukraine, after which became acceptable to talk shit about them.

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