▲ 112 ▼ TIL that in order to avoid having to surrender to the Soviets, the German commander of Bornholm tried to get a single British soldier transferred to the island to surrender to (en.wikipedia.org) submitted 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) by Hubi@feddit.de to c/til@lemmy.ca 16 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[+] FarraigePlaisteach@kbin.social -18 points 2 years ago (2 children) The British ran concentration camps too. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Hubi@feddit.de [S] 28 points 2 years ago (2 children) Up to a million German soldiers died in Soviet captivity. Being in Allied captivity was a walk in the park in comparison. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] ElZoido@kbin.social 1 point 2 years ago The Reihnwiesen weren't exactly a walk in the park. But at least they were mostly temporary. permalink fedilink source parent [+] Amaltheamannen@lemmy.ml -18 points 2 years ago (2 children) And many millions of Soviet citizens and communists in general were murdered by nazis. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Lichtblitz@discuss.tchncs.de 27 points 2 years ago* Revenge and justice are two separate things and only one of those brings humanity forward. The whataboutism is pretty dangerous when it comes to justifying the former. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Hubi@feddit.de [S] 14 points 2 years ago (1 child) I don't see anybody denying this here but it's also not really the topic of the discussion. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Candelestine@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yeah, I think even the most fervent USSR hater should be able to acknowledge their heavy losses in WW2. They may not have won the whole war themselves or anything, but they did make many sacrifices for those battles. I'd even go so far as to say that if one's opinions were to lead one towards disrespecting their dead, who were just defending their homes, then one may have an unusually strong personal bias. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SupraMario@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Well considering they were with the Nazis until Hitler told them no thanks... permalink fedilink source parent [–] Holyginz@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Your point is? We aren't talking about the British. Everyone knows they've done horrible things. But it doesn't give a pass for others. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FarraigePlaisteach@kbin.social 1 point 2 years ago Torture camps are awful no matter who is doing it, yes. You are incorrect in inferring that I’m defending either party there. We are talking about history, Germany and Britain here so go and police someone else’s conversation. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Hubi@feddit.de [S] 28 points 2 years ago (2 children) Up to a million German soldiers died in Soviet captivity. Being in Allied captivity was a walk in the park in comparison. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] ElZoido@kbin.social 1 point 2 years ago The Reihnwiesen weren't exactly a walk in the park. But at least they were mostly temporary. permalink fedilink source parent [+] Amaltheamannen@lemmy.ml -18 points 2 years ago (2 children) And many millions of Soviet citizens and communists in general were murdered by nazis. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Lichtblitz@discuss.tchncs.de 27 points 2 years ago* Revenge and justice are two separate things and only one of those brings humanity forward. The whataboutism is pretty dangerous when it comes to justifying the former. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Hubi@feddit.de [S] 14 points 2 years ago (1 child) I don't see anybody denying this here but it's also not really the topic of the discussion. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Candelestine@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yeah, I think even the most fervent USSR hater should be able to acknowledge their heavy losses in WW2. They may not have won the whole war themselves or anything, but they did make many sacrifices for those battles. I'd even go so far as to say that if one's opinions were to lead one towards disrespecting their dead, who were just defending their homes, then one may have an unusually strong personal bias. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SupraMario@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Well considering they were with the Nazis until Hitler told them no thanks... permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ElZoido@kbin.social 1 point 2 years ago The Reihnwiesen weren't exactly a walk in the park. But at least they were mostly temporary. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Amaltheamannen@lemmy.ml -18 points 2 years ago (2 children) And many millions of Soviet citizens and communists in general were murdered by nazis. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Lichtblitz@discuss.tchncs.de 27 points 2 years ago* Revenge and justice are two separate things and only one of those brings humanity forward. The whataboutism is pretty dangerous when it comes to justifying the former. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Hubi@feddit.de [S] 14 points 2 years ago (1 child) I don't see anybody denying this here but it's also not really the topic of the discussion. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Candelestine@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yeah, I think even the most fervent USSR hater should be able to acknowledge their heavy losses in WW2. They may not have won the whole war themselves or anything, but they did make many sacrifices for those battles. I'd even go so far as to say that if one's opinions were to lead one towards disrespecting their dead, who were just defending their homes, then one may have an unusually strong personal bias. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SupraMario@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Well considering they were with the Nazis until Hitler told them no thanks... permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Lichtblitz@discuss.tchncs.de 27 points 2 years ago* Revenge and justice are two separate things and only one of those brings humanity forward. The whataboutism is pretty dangerous when it comes to justifying the former. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Hubi@feddit.de [S] 14 points 2 years ago (1 child) I don't see anybody denying this here but it's also not really the topic of the discussion. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Candelestine@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yeah, I think even the most fervent USSR hater should be able to acknowledge their heavy losses in WW2. They may not have won the whole war themselves or anything, but they did make many sacrifices for those battles. I'd even go so far as to say that if one's opinions were to lead one towards disrespecting their dead, who were just defending their homes, then one may have an unusually strong personal bias. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SupraMario@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Well considering they were with the Nazis until Hitler told them no thanks... permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Candelestine@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yeah, I think even the most fervent USSR hater should be able to acknowledge their heavy losses in WW2. They may not have won the whole war themselves or anything, but they did make many sacrifices for those battles. I'd even go so far as to say that if one's opinions were to lead one towards disrespecting their dead, who were just defending their homes, then one may have an unusually strong personal bias. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SupraMario@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Well considering they were with the Nazis until Hitler told them no thanks... permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SupraMario@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Well considering they were with the Nazis until Hitler told them no thanks... permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Holyginz@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Your point is? We aren't talking about the British. Everyone knows they've done horrible things. But it doesn't give a pass for others. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FarraigePlaisteach@kbin.social 1 point 2 years ago Torture camps are awful no matter who is doing it, yes. You are incorrect in inferring that I’m defending either party there. We are talking about history, Germany and Britain here so go and police someone else’s conversation. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FarraigePlaisteach@kbin.social 1 point 2 years ago Torture camps are awful no matter who is doing it, yes. You are incorrect in inferring that I’m defending either party there. We are talking about history, Germany and Britain here so go and police someone else’s conversation. permalink fedilink source parent