Winning by whose definition?
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If you're not willing to sacrifice your life and happiness for me then what do you think you're doing with your life?
Yeah Okay Grant Cardone..
For me, winning is a job with flexible hours that let's me go home and do some garage work and then cook. I want vacation time and time to see the doctor. I want a good retirement plan and good coverage for the 3 bullshit doctor things... The body doc, the eye doc and the teeth doc. I want a doctor who enjoys work and is not simply seeing me and a thousand other people. I want cheap medicine that is effective. I want free analysis and no copay surprise. i want free hospital stays. I also want free schools k-12 and university for my kids. And I want free vaccines and freedom of speech without fear or retaliation. And I want diversity at my work, I don't wanna be the only black guy! Or the only Chinese or Korean or woman. And I want my job to not make things that hurt people.
This is it. When they forced us back into the office, it was less about afternoon naps and avoiding traffic. It was more about being able to see my dr that closes at 4pm or taking my elderly parents to their appointments. Cooking dinners to avoid takeout and getting ‘me’ time between zoom calls. They took that away from us. Now it’s 9-5 and not a minute more.
"Jeez what a loser"
_- Asshole linkedin co-founder, probably
I'll be joining the Dow people next week when it drops another 68 percent. They say it hurts less if you jump from the fifth floor or higher. But if you go too high like the 20th floor, you could have enough times to freakout. So you gotta find your Happy medium.
We have different definitions of winning. If I never work for an asshole like you ever again, I win.
The rest of the context seems important
for founders and entrepreneurs: if you’re serious about starting a company.
Still not always true. If you start a business in a field that interests you and you like it so much that you want to work on it day and night that is ok imo. But if you work in sth day and night because you want to earn tons of money from it, dominate the sector and drive others out of the business, that is a mental disease.
Not that I want to encourage this kind of life but with that context he is kinda right. Entrepreneurship is one of those areas where you genuinely get out what you put in. If you want your business to be better, you have to commit the time to it.
Guess what kind of boss a person following this bullshit advice would make
Yeah, that’s honestly very true about starting a small business.
I dig it with context. I did the same thing in 2001 when I decided to go back to my original career of tile and flooring.
I got into IS/IT in 1998 after a decade in flooring and worked a couple jobs until I found some wicked smart programmers and they made a search engine while I was "adult supervision". Fact was, I bought my first suit in '99 and played businessman. It was typical dot-com startup energy, we had some crappy office space that I renovated with some help from my ex-employees on the construction side. Found some venture capital in our new smelling conference room. Bought a foosball and air hockey table. Some weird automatic coffee machine that never worked right. Hired a receptionist/office manager. Bought lunch every day from a takeout or delivery place on the company card. MANY late nights and we'd either chip in for dinner or I'd buy, because lets face it, I was riding their coattails. I could negotiate and write emails, I made sure the network stayed up and I was a good shit filter.
By mid 2001 we sold that search engine to a porn clip website which is since defunct. Not fuckyou money but definitely set the fortunes of the seven of us. Those six guys all went on to do various shit and by all measures are successful with a work/life balance. They all have families now and the kids are either grown or still in college. The only guy I really kept in touch with immediately went into a large university IT department, he's been there since. I took my money and went all-in with tile and flooring and I worked my ass off for 15 years. Stacked money, got a little lucky with mining bitcoin, and now I have a 401k and a mutual fund.
Now I work 40/week for another company and they know I can technically walk away any time I want at 54 years old. (note: the latest stock market shit may have weakened my position but I refuse to look during the panic period). It's fucking EASY compared to either the dot-com startup or the 15 years after that. I mean, I worked 16 hour days on dark, humid bathrooms just to finish on schedule. 70 hour weeks setting tile will really wear your ass out.
So I guess this is a long ass post to say, "I understand the grind, but you can't do it for 30 years. If you have an exit plan then grind away but if you don't see that brass ring in front of you stop killing yourself."
Have you tried setting tile with your hands instead? Just a thought.
Yeah, that's actually a fair comment. Getting a new business off the ground, pretty much any business, is something that requires a big time commitment at the start.
Thanks, the fact that this the source is an American business magazine made me expect this wasn't meant for the underpaid and overworked.
LinkedIn cofounder Reid Hoffman should go eat glass. This is how his likely schedule looks:
8 am: Meetings (optional)
11 am: tax deductible "business" lunch
1 pm: meetings (optional)
6 pm: tax deductible "business" dinner
Lol dumbfuck.
FTAH==F**K THAT ASSHOLE
You're damn fucking right I'm not.
Lol dumbass, I'm barely earning my participation trophy.
If I even get a participation trophy, I'll probably skip the ceremony.
Workers, at best, only get a tiny fraction of "winning" when it happens. Why should anyone destroy themselves for spoils that multimillionaire C-suites take for themselves?
Just because he has no life doesn’t mean others shouldn’t have one. Boo this man.
Boo, Wendy Testaburger boo
Indeed, boo this man 👻
Yeah fuck that, every fuckin job description I read these days with some variation of "ownership mindset" makes my blood boil, fuck this economy and fuck society I'm not having kids and see them go through the same rat race as me, let these cunts cry about lack of workers and demographic collapse
Rooting for the collapse of this entire system is what sustains me.
And I think that's where the issue falls with this. People who found companies feel entitled to similar labor levels as their own
Yup, they expect ordinary workers to put in the same amount of effort for a tiny salary compared to theirs which doesn't scale with the profits of the company, and when there are losses they lose their jobs while the people who made the decisions that led to the losses get to keep their jobs, fuck that shit.
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I'm not even committed to competing to begin with.
Win a career, loose a family, mmh...
I don't give a fuck about winning, I want to be happy.
Objecting to alienation is lèse majesté, serfs! Labor for the labor god.
Reid Hoffman can stick his tongue in my ass.
Sounds like little Trump. Winning!
I mean, it’s a flag, just not a red one.
There is nothing inherently wrong with the grindset. Lots of people have extreme dedication to their craft (not me lol).
The grindset becomes an issue when you're giving someone else all of your time and they're taking advantage.