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The mastodon and lemmy content I’m seeing feels like 90% of it comes from people who are:

  • ~30 years old or older

  • tech enthusiasts/workers

  • linux users

There’s nothing wrong with that particular demographic or anything, but it doesn’t feel like a win to me if the entire fediverse is just one big monoculture.

I wonder what it is that is keeping more diverse users away? Is picking a server/federation too complicated? Or is it that they don’t see any content that they like?

Thoughts?

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

No. Next question

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm definitely coming up on 40, but I am not a tech nerd at all. I think Linux is wizard magic.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

you ever feel like tech people embrace new technology first?

you're not wrong, and it's something that needs to be acknowledged, but I can't think of a single innovation on the internet that wasn't dominated by older (when you demarcate 30 as "older") tech people before coming to popularity among the general public

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Let's be honest here - Lemmy today is a very broken experience. I can't recommend it to my partner because she will complain non stop that this not working, that is laggy, etc. It's all fun for enthusiasts, but it's nothing more than a very broken alpha preview of what could be made in few years.

There's also a lack of content. Can you get a professional skincare advice on Lemmy? No. Can you talk to Bill Gates on Lemmy? No. Is there a Chinese Cooking Demistified community on Lemmy? No. It's just Linux, Fediverse, cats and porn.

And then there's a question of money. For Lemmy to go mainstream it needs to spend millions on promotion, ads, development, customer support, lawyers, etc. You can build great thing on enthusiasm, but they will remain a niche. If you want to reach the masses, you need a lot of capital. You can see that clearly with Facebook's Twitter clone - tens of millions sign ups in 24 days. Can't do that without spending tens of millions.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

I'm in my early 20's but I do use Linux and and I'm a tech enthusiast. For now everybody here is 1 of the 3 but it will grow.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

im studying CS

im in the late 30s

i've been a tech enthusiast for a bit more than 30 years

i dont use linux though

More users will come. it's all about the memes and fun discussions though. Memes is what drew me towards reddit. i just wanted to "scroll" for some entertainment, when i first found the site.

and being able to google, and finding reddit links helps.

i've yet to find a link to lemmy, by googling anything - even if i include the word lemmy.

On reddit we had a ton of "general" hobby subreddits. houseplants, cast iron, woodworking etc

i've not been searching for specific communities (search doesnt work super well i think) but i've yet to randomyl spot any communities that fall in to that category. it's mostly.. tech related subreddits.

the "common folk" wants hobbies, sports, news, etc.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Yeah I'm one of the 90% here, except for the Linux part, FreeBSD man. No problem with that and it would fine with me if it doesn't change. Talking to my peeps here.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

I certainly fit the bill at 46 and in a tech-related job (although I'm on a Mac, in part because my job is on the design end).

And I'm good with that. I hated getting into it with someone on Reddit and realizing I was arguing with a child. I felt like such a fool.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

I'm all of those things, but not an active Linux user any more. Definitely been there before though.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Not EXCLUSIVELY... but kinda, but even though I'm only 1 (or maybe 2) out of the 3, and a bunch of programming jokes and jargon go over my head, I really don't mind. And... if you're going to start with a particular demographic as a core userbase, man oh man could you do worse these days.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Every new technology is first used by this kind of people (not sure about the age), it is for now just to us to extend the area covered by various communities to non-techie areas. I hope to start with participating in [email protected] and [email protected] which are hopefully far enough from the usual techie crowd.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Sub-30 yo but super-20 yo

STEM equal, just not tech

Windows user (although I have Linux installed on my PC)

Close, but rly close enough

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

I guess I'm all 3. I'm 39, tech enthusiast (tho I've long since given up on working in the industry), and have been using and occasionally contributing to the Linux community since the mid-90s.

My husband is afaik, still just on reddit. idk if he's moved to the official app on his phone (he was a rif guy for years) or what he's doing tbh. But, he's not really a geek 😁

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

hey! i'll have you know i'm only 26. calling me out...

i also haven't used linux for a while but i'm currently procrastinating on setting it up on my laptop because windows modern standby hella sucks

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

You caught me. I'm old, write software and regularly use Linux.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Jeez I’m not that old

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

All true for me... except I haven't booted into my Linux install in literal months.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

I'm neither cis male nor that old but I fit the other two demographics lmao

Might be that tech inrerested ppl are more inclined to switch to less used alternatives when they allow for a more free and open platform. Also the barrier of entry for those might be quite a bit lower than the average Redditor

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Well, we (old farts) know shit, kids are brainwashed nowadays.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

The average person is about as technologically literate as a rock and curious about learning new things as a weed. Only a small subset of intelligent, curious, principled people dare to think of using alternatives that require users to have more than two brain cells or an attention span of more than 30 seconds.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Oh man, that's totally me! But I can't tell you why it is so appealing to my demographic. I don't know anyone IRL here and nothing about it seems like it would scare off everyone else...

BUT while we are all here:

  • Trapper Keepers
  • Garbage Pail Kids
  • Music on cassette tapes
  • Vim > Emacs
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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

I think it is something along those lines, the early adopters are quite fed up with Reddit and have the knowledge to explore new options. The fediverse is still strange and not so easy to understand for the casual user.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Yes - guilty! We understand what it is, and we have used the centralized systems long enough to remember how they started. It's so romantic to be at the beginning once more - until the next eternal September :)

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