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[–] 280 points 2 years ago (10 children)

They're working hard to make sure piracy provides the best experience.

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  • [–] 25 points 2 years ago (5 children)

    This is already my experience but still use a Roku to access Plex. Looks like I'll need to get something else or figure out if i can block them with Ad Guard Home

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  • [–] 14 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    I use pi hole and the experience is not entirely smooth. I don’t know if anyone else has experienced this but my pi hole blocks ads but every few weeks Roku has an update and it locks up the entire operating system and I’m stuck in a loop of trying to get my update so I can return to normal. I for the hell of it disabled pi hole for 5 minutes and it wound up working but not until I dropped pi hole. So it’s as if it every so often decides to hold the operating system hostage if I don’t drop pi hole for updates. Makes me think they likely get all the telemetry they are trying to collect for selling data. I like not watching ads 90 percent of the time but it pisses me off that they are likely still spying on me by forcing me to communicate with their servers every now and then.

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  • [–] 22 points 2 years ago

    My brother in Christ, please just connect another device to your TV and disconnect your TV from the internet. No one should be using the built-in software for exactly this reason.

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  • [–] 115 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

    Not a surprise for Roku. The company has been getting progressively worse in the last few years and their enshittification is accelerating. Their recent forced download of an update that requires users to agree to arbitration to even use our TVs was intended to ultimately take control of those TVs completely away from the people who own them.

    Right now it's possible to block Roku's static ads and presumably the autoplaying ones using a local DNS server like Adblock Home or Pihole, but it's only a matter of time before Roku blocks everything unless we watch the ads they are trying force down our throats. I'm already in the process of obsoleting all 5 of our Roku devices.

    It has taken Roku years to build up enough market share to allow this kind of behavior and it will take years for the market to abandon them. Their executives will claim ignorance as to why users are walking away when it finally hits their bottom line.

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  • [–] 82 points 2 years ago (47 children)

    Roku is bad, I have one older Roku ""smart"" tv that I just block from accessing the internet entirely, and use a shield with a custom launcher instead.

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    So, I use regex to block all Roku domains on my network via pihole:

    (ads|logs|cloudservices|image|images|web|prod.mobile|wwwimg|captive|customer-feedbacks|amoeba|amoeba2|sr|giga.sb|cs).roku(.admeasurement)*.com$

    Then, possibly overkill due to the above, I used OpnSense firewall rules to block all traffic from my Roku tv. I think I just got fed up with seeing Roku spam in my pihole, as the above regex seems to completely "break" Roku.

    After that, I set up FLauncher (following the method #2 instructions on the gitlab page) on my shield. This makes it so I only see the Roku launcher for a few seconds while the shield starts up, and then I'm dropped straight into flauncher. I chose flauncher because it's very simple and barebones, so you might want to explore other options if you want more advanced features. I don't really need those features since I'm usually using an app anyway.

    Note that I did all of that after the tv was configured and set up, YMMV if it's a brand new tv as it may need to call home to do the initial set up.

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    [+] 56 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (15 children)
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    [–] 55 points 2 years ago (36 children)

    Can i pleace find a decent TV without smart-capabilitys? I just want HDMI thats it

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    [–] 48 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    For years I was a big fan of Roku. It represented a better value alternative from the big corporations pushing their own agenda like Google, Apple, Samsung, and Amazon. They made products that were intuitive and user oriented and carved out a very nice and stable market share for themselves because of it. Now they're just leveraging their hardware relationships to transform the software into something terrible.

    I used to look for tvs with Roku built in. Now I've disabled Roku features from my smart TVS and use a separate streaming device.

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    [–] 36 points 2 years ago (11 children)

    Shit. I got a Roku TV. That's one big fucking stick to toss.

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  • [–] 28 points 2 years ago (7 children)

    Step 1. Factory reset.

    Step 2. Do not allow it to connect to the Internet.

    Step 3. Connect a Linux based computer to it and run everything through the computer.

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    [–] 32 points 2 years ago (10 children)

    I have a Roku ultra in my kid's room.

    I do not want her subjected to ads when she turns on the TV.

    This is unacceptable to me and I will be replacing all my Rokus immediately.

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    [–] 32 points 2 years ago (12 children)

    Don't connect your Roku to the internet.

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  • [–] 33 points 2 years ago* (9 children)

    Or better yet, use a Pi-Hole or something similar to block the relevant adservers at the DNS level.

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    [–] 32 points 2 years ago

    Almost downvoted instinctually as a reaction to the headline. Visceral reaction. I hate this beyond belief.

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  • [–] 22 points 2 years ago* (2 children)

    Get to the endgame. Just strap us to a chair and make us watch your crap ads Clockwork Orange style.

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    [–] 21 points 2 years ago

    This is why I disconnected my parents Roku tv from the internet last year, when they started to get updates that wouldn't download, and freeze the whole tv, i said enough is enough

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  • [–] 21 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Roku had the best smart tv ui. I was seriously bummed when the ads started rolling in a few years ago.

    I want an open source streaming client, but from what I hear DRM gets in the way of that.

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    [–] 20 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Looking around Roku's site, I found this email address: AdsPR@roku.com

    I'm planning on giving them a brief but firm "oh hell no" letter. I wonder how many others will do the same 🤔

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  • [–] 20 points 1 year ago

    Uh huh, but collecting Blurays is just silly I've been told.

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  • [–] 20 points 2 years ago (6 children)

    So glad I blocked my TVs access to the Internet at the router level. Never complainrd about not setting up a network if the network doesn't work.

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    [–] 20 points 2 years ago (10 children)

    this is the worst, next they're gonna put ads on cars

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  • [–] 20 points 2 years ago

    Stellantis is already doing this on new cars in the US. (Dodge, Chrysler, Jeep, Maserati, FiAT, etc) Soon as you press the brakes and come to a stop ads play on your infotainment system. Have the car in park? Yep more ads.

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    [–] 19 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    If this happens on my box I'll be taking them to small claims court and let you all know how it goes...

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    [–] 19 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    They just did this to me. How can I tell them they failed this test?

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    [–] 18 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    So glad I ditched Roku. My modified Onn box (with an open source, ad-free launcher) is so much better.

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    [–] 17 points 2 years ago

    If you force Ads then I will replace your equipment. The only reason I use Roku is to avoid the Ads built into "smart TVs"

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  • [–] 15 points 2 years ago* (4 children)

    I only ever tried using a Roku so I could stream my PC to my smart TV, but it turns out there's MASSIVE latency. Of course I returned it. If I had to deal with that AND ADS, I would have set that shit on fire

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    [–] 15 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Bought a Roku back in 2020 or 2021 because the Apple TV was more expensive.

    Now I know why.

    For what it is worth, I have Roku set up as a REGEX in my Pi-hole so for the most part, any of this nonsense is completely blocked on my Roku.

    Needless to say, I shouldn’t have to do this shit with a device I paid for and mainly use for Plex streaming.

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