▲ 1126 ▼ “Awful”: Roku tests autoplaying ads loading before the home screen (arstechnica.com) submitted 2 years ago by flop_leash_973@lemmy.world to c/technology@lemmy.world 295 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] potentiallynotfelix@lemmy.fish 32 points 2 years ago (12 children) Don't connect your Roku to the internet. permalink fedilink source hideshow 12 child comments replies: [–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 33 points 2 years ago* (9 children) Or better yet, use a Pi-Hole or something similar to block the relevant adservers at the DNS level. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] Hellmo_Luciferrari@lemm.ee 23 points 2 years ago (4 children) I wouldn't say this is "better" I do run a pihole, but I still will never connect my roku to the internet. It is much better to have a media PC or other streaming device I have control of fully connected. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 2 years ago (2 children) True, but most people are buying off-the-shelf stuff and they don't have their own localized piracy-enabled libraries with a Jellyfin server. Further, I'm pretty sure you've got to connect your Roku at least once to install player apps like Jellyfin. But maybe you don't, I'm not at all familiar with if you can sideload on a Roku. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Steve@startrek.website 4 points 2 years ago There is actually a way to sideload apps without internet. I did it once and forgot the details permalink fedilink source parent [–] Hellmo_Luciferrari@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago For any streaming, Netflix, YouTube, or anything I would always use a computer. Not some awful app on a slow device. No screen of mine needs to be anything besides a screen. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 years ago Amen. I run a PiHole, and also just use lil computers on all of my screens and download anything I watch and put it on a lil server they all can stream from! No ads, best quality! permalink fedilink source parent [–] ALostInquirer@lemm.ee 6 points 2 years ago (2 children) Would you happen to know of any guides or have advice on identifying the adservers to block? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 2 years ago* (1 child) I've always just done it manually by viewing the Pi-Hole logs for the device I am on while the ad is loading. It takes getting into the weeds a bit. Further, I don't have a Roku so I've never looked into it myself. That being said, a quick search brought up this hosts file: https://gist.github.com/sidward35/cea28bedd0ec0b1bceec8c2b22c163c4 Adlist for Pi-hole with domains for Roku, LG, and Samsung Not sure if it's current or not. Lots of threads about Roku ads making it through after being previously blocked. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] ALostInquirer@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago Appreciate the reply and link regardless! It's always whack-an-ad with these intrusive jerks. permalink fedilink source parent [–] CeeBee_Eh@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago That's not better, you didn't allow any smart TV to connect to the internet. permalink fedilink source parent [–] tal@lemmy.today 11 points 2 years ago (1 child) Don’t connect your Roku to the internet. I thought that Roku was some kind of streaming service to a device. Doesn't that need to be Internet-connected to function? kagis https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roku Ah. Apparently that's what they originally did, but they've also subsequently come out with smart TVs, which I assume can operate without an Internet connection. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] greybeard@lemmy.one 7 points 2 years ago Roku started as a streaming media box. You paid them money, they gave you a box that could play Netflix and Youtube. It was a simple transaction. Unfortunately, at some point they decided to start selling/giving their OS to TV manufacturers. This was actually nice at the start. You got a smart TV who's "Smarts" were designed by competent people. A revolution at the time. But the drive to drop prices lower and lower meant that there was no margin on the TV, which means Roku had to investigate other ways of making their revenue, AKA Ads and selling data. Of course, the stand alone box probably would have went that way anyways, but at least with selling a dedicated box, there is a clear financial benefit without the need to get invasive. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 33 points 2 years ago* (9 children) Or better yet, use a Pi-Hole or something similar to block the relevant adservers at the DNS level. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] Hellmo_Luciferrari@lemm.ee 23 points 2 years ago (4 children) I wouldn't say this is "better" I do run a pihole, but I still will never connect my roku to the internet. It is much better to have a media PC or other streaming device I have control of fully connected. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 2 years ago (2 children) True, but most people are buying off-the-shelf stuff and they don't have their own localized piracy-enabled libraries with a Jellyfin server. Further, I'm pretty sure you've got to connect your Roku at least once to install player apps like Jellyfin. But maybe you don't, I'm not at all familiar with if you can sideload on a Roku. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Steve@startrek.website 4 points 2 years ago There is actually a way to sideload apps without internet. I did it once and forgot the details permalink fedilink source parent [–] Hellmo_Luciferrari@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago For any streaming, Netflix, YouTube, or anything I would always use a computer. Not some awful app on a slow device. No screen of mine needs to be anything besides a screen. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 years ago Amen. I run a PiHole, and also just use lil computers on all of my screens and download anything I watch and put it on a lil server they all can stream from! No ads, best quality! permalink fedilink source parent [–] ALostInquirer@lemm.ee 6 points 2 years ago (2 children) Would you happen to know of any guides or have advice on identifying the adservers to block? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 2 years ago* (1 child) I've always just done it manually by viewing the Pi-Hole logs for the device I am on while the ad is loading. It takes getting into the weeds a bit. Further, I don't have a Roku so I've never looked into it myself. That being said, a quick search brought up this hosts file: https://gist.github.com/sidward35/cea28bedd0ec0b1bceec8c2b22c163c4 Adlist for Pi-hole with domains for Roku, LG, and Samsung Not sure if it's current or not. Lots of threads about Roku ads making it through after being previously blocked. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] ALostInquirer@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago Appreciate the reply and link regardless! It's always whack-an-ad with these intrusive jerks. permalink fedilink source parent [–] CeeBee_Eh@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago That's not better, you didn't allow any smart TV to connect to the internet. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Hellmo_Luciferrari@lemm.ee 23 points 2 years ago (4 children) I wouldn't say this is "better" I do run a pihole, but I still will never connect my roku to the internet. It is much better to have a media PC or other streaming device I have control of fully connected. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 2 years ago (2 children) True, but most people are buying off-the-shelf stuff and they don't have their own localized piracy-enabled libraries with a Jellyfin server. Further, I'm pretty sure you've got to connect your Roku at least once to install player apps like Jellyfin. But maybe you don't, I'm not at all familiar with if you can sideload on a Roku. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Steve@startrek.website 4 points 2 years ago There is actually a way to sideload apps without internet. I did it once and forgot the details permalink fedilink source parent [–] Hellmo_Luciferrari@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago For any streaming, Netflix, YouTube, or anything I would always use a computer. Not some awful app on a slow device. No screen of mine needs to be anything besides a screen. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 years ago Amen. I run a PiHole, and also just use lil computers on all of my screens and download anything I watch and put it on a lil server they all can stream from! No ads, best quality! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 2 years ago (2 children) True, but most people are buying off-the-shelf stuff and they don't have their own localized piracy-enabled libraries with a Jellyfin server. Further, I'm pretty sure you've got to connect your Roku at least once to install player apps like Jellyfin. But maybe you don't, I'm not at all familiar with if you can sideload on a Roku. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Steve@startrek.website 4 points 2 years ago There is actually a way to sideload apps without internet. I did it once and forgot the details permalink fedilink source parent [–] Hellmo_Luciferrari@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago For any streaming, Netflix, YouTube, or anything I would always use a computer. Not some awful app on a slow device. No screen of mine needs to be anything besides a screen. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Steve@startrek.website 4 points 2 years ago There is actually a way to sideload apps without internet. I did it once and forgot the details permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Hellmo_Luciferrari@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago For any streaming, Netflix, YouTube, or anything I would always use a computer. Not some awful app on a slow device. No screen of mine needs to be anything besides a screen. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 years ago Amen. I run a PiHole, and also just use lil computers on all of my screens and download anything I watch and put it on a lil server they all can stream from! No ads, best quality! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ALostInquirer@lemm.ee 6 points 2 years ago (2 children) Would you happen to know of any guides or have advice on identifying the adservers to block? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 2 years ago* (1 child) I've always just done it manually by viewing the Pi-Hole logs for the device I am on while the ad is loading. It takes getting into the weeds a bit. Further, I don't have a Roku so I've never looked into it myself. That being said, a quick search brought up this hosts file: https://gist.github.com/sidward35/cea28bedd0ec0b1bceec8c2b22c163c4 Adlist for Pi-hole with domains for Roku, LG, and Samsung Not sure if it's current or not. Lots of threads about Roku ads making it through after being previously blocked. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] ALostInquirer@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago Appreciate the reply and link regardless! It's always whack-an-ad with these intrusive jerks. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 2 years ago* (1 child) I've always just done it manually by viewing the Pi-Hole logs for the device I am on while the ad is loading. It takes getting into the weeds a bit. Further, I don't have a Roku so I've never looked into it myself. That being said, a quick search brought up this hosts file: https://gist.github.com/sidward35/cea28bedd0ec0b1bceec8c2b22c163c4 Adlist for Pi-hole with domains for Roku, LG, and Samsung Not sure if it's current or not. Lots of threads about Roku ads making it through after being previously blocked. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] ALostInquirer@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago Appreciate the reply and link regardless! It's always whack-an-ad with these intrusive jerks. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ALostInquirer@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago Appreciate the reply and link regardless! It's always whack-an-ad with these intrusive jerks. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] CeeBee_Eh@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago That's not better, you didn't allow any smart TV to connect to the internet. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] tal@lemmy.today 11 points 2 years ago (1 child) Don’t connect your Roku to the internet. I thought that Roku was some kind of streaming service to a device. Doesn't that need to be Internet-connected to function? kagis https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roku Ah. Apparently that's what they originally did, but they've also subsequently come out with smart TVs, which I assume can operate without an Internet connection. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] greybeard@lemmy.one 7 points 2 years ago Roku started as a streaming media box. You paid them money, they gave you a box that could play Netflix and Youtube. It was a simple transaction. Unfortunately, at some point they decided to start selling/giving their OS to TV manufacturers. This was actually nice at the start. You got a smart TV who's "Smarts" were designed by competent people. A revolution at the time. But the drive to drop prices lower and lower meant that there was no margin on the TV, which means Roku had to investigate other ways of making their revenue, AKA Ads and selling data. Of course, the stand alone box probably would have went that way anyways, but at least with selling a dedicated box, there is a clear financial benefit without the need to get invasive. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] greybeard@lemmy.one 7 points 2 years ago Roku started as a streaming media box. You paid them money, they gave you a box that could play Netflix and Youtube. It was a simple transaction. Unfortunately, at some point they decided to start selling/giving their OS to TV manufacturers. This was actually nice at the start. You got a smart TV who's "Smarts" were designed by competent people. A revolution at the time. But the drive to drop prices lower and lower meant that there was no margin on the TV, which means Roku had to investigate other ways of making their revenue, AKA Ads and selling data. Of course, the stand alone box probably would have went that way anyways, but at least with selling a dedicated box, there is a clear financial benefit without the need to get invasive. permalink fedilink source parent