This blew my mind. All those movies!
So, Back to the Future's a bunch of bullshit?!
This blew my mind. All those movies!
So, Back to the Future's a bunch of bullshit?!
incorrect, that is not what this means. They could have forgotten about the position setting all together. Also why the suns position? it is also moving and non absolute, just like earths. Makes no difference in this meme
All of space is moving, you need to fix a reference point, there's nothing to stop you making it earth
What you're describing is a machine which moves both in time and space. A machine which only moves in time would result in this meme no matter how you twist it.
Or relative to the galactic center. That would put you even further off.
I know we're in a meme community but this did get me thinking... Not only is the Earth spinning but it's also in an orbit around the Sun which is also orbiting around the center of the Milky Way which is moving through space relative to other galaxies and so on.
Do we have enough information to calculate a position in space in the future for Earth without a fixed reference other than current point?
That's what einstein said. There is no fixed reference frame, but only relative ones. Every "inertial"(meaning, motion without any external force) frame of reference is equally valid as any other inertial frame movibg with respect to it.
But for sure we can tell earth's orbit is not inertial since circular motion occur, which is due to external force of gravity.
Edit:typo
This is why Doctor Who has a time and space machine. Also because the BBC didn’t have the effects budget to show him flying around.
There is not central point in the universe, and no way to calculate a position. Everything is relatove
If space is always expanding, I’d really like to know if a time traveler would experience issues existing in a universe where the space between atoms is different from the one they left.
I was under the impression that gravity was a constant force keeping the atoms closer together
that's why you build it like a spaceship 🤷 ez
I remember reading about this concept as a kid in a short story Neal Shusterman wrote called Same Time, Next Year. Blew my mind
I was surprised when I read the OG time machine story by Jules Verne and this was a main plot point, and only later stories hand-waived it. You'd think it was something from later analysis of the idea. Almost like that Verne dude was clever.
Clark Ashton Smith wrote a similar short story where the inventor failed to take it into account. Upon realizing his mistake he decided to just wait for another planet to reach him, turning his time machine into a spaceship.
It should be illegal to remind people (me, particularly) about Steins;Gate while they're at work
I can't be fucking crying on the clock, dawg
Heyy this property features in the accidental time machine by Joe Haldeman
And its not like there even is a same place. Position is relative, but to what in this case? Doesn't even make sense
Oooohh. Thanks for the tip, just added that into my time travelling port o pottie's destination algorithms. Gotta respect the earth be moving and shit.
Wow, I never thought about that.
See, that's a problem they always skip in time-travel movies.
It's just another problem with the mechanics of the snap at the end of Avengers: Endgame
Magic exists in that universe though and they're using some of the most powerful objects in the universe. So like if it's granting a wish, you just wish that everyone comes back to earth or whatever. It's not even really a suspension of disbelief. It feels more silly to think that genius scientists using wish granting artifacts wouldn't remember to account for the movement of the earth through space.
Also ghosts likely wouldn't be affected by a gravitational pull, so the concept doesn't make sense and there'd just be a trail of ghosts in space.
Can't they just float and follow the Earth? Or would it be too fast? What's the terminal velocity of a ghost?
You've got to entangle the same machine first over a massive macro quantum space-time superposition.
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