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[–] bucketofcandyfloss 3 points 7 hours ago
[–] [email protected] 13 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Pretty much how you'd build any train station in a city. Just look at any London train station. Article entirely meant to get 'petrol heads' riled up.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 hours ago

Cue the article comments about a war on motorists. Mostly from people who don't even live there.

I've been through Cambridge on the train, and there's always a shitload of bicycles. Presumably it's mostly students about who use them locally, because there's no way you'd actually get more than a handful on the trains themselves.

Presumably they've also got security, because if they tried that where I live, some lad with bolt cutters and a balaclava would help himself to the lot and swap it for heroin.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (1 children)

The people complaining about not having a car park would complain even more if Network Rail built one and then didn't subsidise the parking charges.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 21 hours ago

Hard agree. Why do people always expect someone else to foot the bill for their parking needs?

Your car takes up space when parked. Somebody is paying for that space, so you need to do so when you park there. It's not that difficult.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 18 hours ago
[–] [email protected] 2 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (3 children)

What kind of lunatic takes their car to the train station anyway ?

Edit : ok, lunatic is a strong word (my intent was to use hyperbole for the laughs but, text and irony and all that...). Still, as someone who's lived in two different semi-rural towns with decent train and bus services (and tons of bike racks at the train stations, although most people would use shitty "burner" bikes because of thefts) for a long time, that was a bit surprising to me

[–] [email protected] 27 points 18 hours ago (3 children)

People that live far away from the train station?? How is that hard to understand?

I know this is fuck cars but that person shouldn’t be called a lunatic if they’re already using the train as part of their commute.

It’s actually a pretty good middle ground as you still avoid one car in a population center and that person still probably has a decent commute

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 hours ago

That's why there are parking lots next to rural train stations, at least here in Germany.

But it doesn't make sense to put lots of parking spaces next to a train station right inside a city because there are so many better usages of that space in a city center.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 16 hours ago

Where I live, I could theoretically ride my bike to a bus stop to ride into downtown for work. However there is no bike path, or side walk and the speed limit is 55 with no shoulder. The road also gets a few hundred cars an hour. I've seen people ride bikes around my area, but never down my road, I'm very confident I'll die. So I drive 10 minutes to a bus to ride for 45 minutes instead of drive 35 minutes alone in my car.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 16 hours ago

Who are you, who are so wise in the ways of common sense?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 hours ago

People with suitcases.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 14 hours ago

Park and ride people.

[–] [email protected] 87 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Better headline: New £200m train station will serve 1.8m yearly passengers, converts wasteful long-term car parking with valuable new homes and businesses, and uses more efficient transportation facilities like drop-off zones and over 1000 bicycle parking spaces.

[–] [email protected] 75 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Some local residents have not been onboard with the lack of car spaces at the new station.

If you need a car to reach the station it's questionable to claim you're local.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 hours ago

To be fair, if they don't have private parking they might suddenly find it very difficult to park at their own home. On the other hand, if they live that close to a train station...

[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I'm from the united states Midwest and have Heard people claim to be local to cities while living 20miles away from city limits.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago (2 children)

You guys are wild when it comes to distances. I was recently in LA and everyone insisted a 20 minutes car commute classified as "close". On another occasion, a lady literally told me "You said it was far away. It's only 50 miles".

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago

20 minute car commute in LA is, what, 3 city blocks?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

I rode a bicycle 120 miles a few years back just because I felt like it one day. I'm probably not the best just for what's considered "reasonable"

That said, it really is the joke/meme "Americans think 100 years is a long time, Europeans think 100 miles is a long distance"

Personally, I feel like if I'm more than 3 miles away, I'm not local. I may be "from the area" but I'm not "a local"

Most people I know wouldn't consider 50 miles to be "close" though in terms of "can I pop over for a quick trip or do I need to plan my day around it"

As for car rides, like.... If I'm driving I don't mind so much because I'm occupied by trying not to die, but as a passenger anything over 5 minutes is not a "quick trip"

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

But what about those folks who use a car to commute from their garage to their car?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

So, like every train station I have ever seen in Japan?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Are other countries not allowed to do something good if Japan did it first?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 13 hours ago

No, I point that out because I also lived in Hawaii for 6 years and when they finally built their light rail system on Oahu, they built hundreds of parking spaces around the station. They provided no bicycle parking and no commercial storefront space. Convenience stores, super markets, doctor's offices, dental clinics, and maybe a small police outpost are all handy things to have next to the station. Last time I checked an online map, the parking spaces are hardly ever used. Who takes a car to a train station and leaves it so they can ride the train?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 16 hours ago

i think they address the upset

[–] [email protected] 27 points 2 days ago
[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 days ago

There are train stations where I would much prefer a huge car park, because they're on the "outer perimeter" of a city region where denser movement options become viable. But this sounds like a newly developed area designed under the sensible European 15-minute-city principles; where 3 parking spaces is the region taken up by a single small shop. So to me, all the complaints here sound very much like car-brain.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago

This just makes me realise how bike crazy the Netherlands is, Amsterdam recently built underground bicycle parking that can hold 20,000 bicycles.

This bike parking was built underneath a canal.