Found this notification this morning on my pixel 6.

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[–] 438 points 2 years ago (41 children)

Even if this isn't entirely true, you know Google wouldn't pass up the opportunity to reduce Firefox market share to scare everyone back to Chrome.

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  • [+] 117 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (12 children)
  • [–] 92 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    That's not the point they're trying to make I think. It's more of an attack on perfection. Like "the alternative is not perfect either so why not just stay with Chrome". It's not a very strong argument in general but it might be enough to keep people from switching.

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  • [–] 18 points 2 years ago

    the alternative is not perfect either so why not just stay

    It does work for a lot of people. Seeing they need to change and adapt if they do change, and it seemingly seems to be as bad as what they're using now, why change and face headaches and hassle.

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  • [–] 22 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    There's no need to reduce Firefox marketshare. Most people don't even consider using anything else than whatever is default in their device.

    Also, it's not a Google scare tactic or a flex. Every application on the Play Store must disclose the general outlines of their data policy, including the sharing of data. Lying with those checkbox is not a good idea but they are completely informative and put there by the publishing party, so the people responsible for publishing Firefox on mobile just updated these, and this is what is shown when an app publisher say their app is sharing data with third parties.

    tl;dr: it's very likely that not a single soul at Google even looked at this, as this is just the regular behavior of the Play Store with apps that changes their data policy or indicate sharing user data with third parties.

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    [–] 185 points 2 years ago

    Google warning you about Mozilla is just peak fucking irony

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  • [–] 161 points 2 years ago (6 children)

    God damn why's the world so shit

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    [–] 114 points 2 years ago

    "Quick! Jump to chrome instead!" - Google spokesperson

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  • [–] 88 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child)

    FWIW I'm not seeing this on the Play Store for Firefox 136.0.1 on my Pixel 8a, and I'm not seeing any warnings on Beta or Nightly either:

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    [–] 85 points 2 years ago*

    i mean it's just because you can grant websites location data and toggle telemetry.

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  • [–] 80 points 2 years ago (14 children)

    As of the latest Chrome update on PC, they have dropped support for uBlock. You can still technically enable it, but they disabled it by default once you update.

    That got me back to Firefox with breakneck speed.

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    [–] 75 points 2 years ago (7 children)

    That's a regular notification, which would happen for any application whose data policy is changed on the Play Store page. These policy are as declared by the app publisher. This would be the same for any application that didn't check that "sharing data with third party" box earlier, then checked it later on.

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    [–] 64 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Isn't that just because Firefox got access to location data because some site asked for it?

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    [+] 60 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (17 children)
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    [–] 48 points 2 years ago

    Google: "Forcing us to divest Chrome could have impacts on our ability to support Mozilla and their high executive salaries as we own the space with Chrome."

    Also Google:

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  • [–] 46 points 2 years ago (8 children)

    Wait a second. You're expecting Google to not FUD? Ha ha ha oh wow. I mean I didn't actually expect them to do so, but yeah.

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    [–] 43 points 2 years ago

    Okay, turned it off. If a site needs my location it can ask me and I can politely tell it to fuck off unless it has a warrant.

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  • [–] 42 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    Pretty easy to disable the location app permission or set it to ask every time. Firefox hasn't asked me to enable it since turning it off.

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    [–] 34 points 2 years ago

    Deactivate from settings Have https always on, protection against tracking on strict, data collection and daily ping on off.

    And that's it.

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    [–] 29 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Do they mean “Firefox can get your location data to pass on to pages you give permission to, who we cannot guarantee won’t share it with advertisers” or “Firefox reserves the right to do a deal to monetise the tantalising firehose of location data coming from your device unless you specifically opt out”?

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    [–] 25 points 2 years ago (5 children)

    Friendship ended with Firefox. Waterfox is my new best friend ❤️

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    [–] 23 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (8 children)

    So if Mozilla wants to monetize location data, what does this mean for all the custom ROMs that use Mozilla's location provider instead of Google's?

    This might mean that we would have no true free location provider left.

    Edit: just was thinking, what does this mean for Firefox forks that also use Mozilla's location service?

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  • [–] 20 points 2 years ago*

    So if Mozilla wants to monetize location data, what does this mean for all the custom ROMs that use Mozilla's location provider instead of Google's?

    Nothing, because they dont sell location data, this just seems like a routine warning that pops up when ToS and Privacy policy changes, and since they have clarified their position on this matter, (not to mention the lack of alternative FOSS web engines). We really shouldn't let this bother us

    Of course i might be wrong and it may come out that Mozilla has turned heel(lot of heel turning happening lately)

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    [–] 21 points 2 years ago (7 children)

    Firefox engines have telemetry since old ages. Do you know what even crazier ??? even other firefox browser like fennec has Mozilla telemetry.


    PSA : disable it with Blocker (ROOT) for more privacy

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    [–] 17 points 2 years ago (8 children)

    Alright gang, what are some good open source Firefox forks available on Android and Linux?

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    [–] 16 points 2 years ago

    I had already downloaded and installed Ironfox (FF Android fork) on my phone and have been using it for a week or so. It works identically to FF for android. Ublock Origin is working in Ironfox too.

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