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Obvious as it may sound, people with authoritarian beliefs hiding behind free speech actually consider it as a weakness akin empathy. It allows losers like them to amplify their reach despite not being in power. They abandon their "free speech absolutist" postures the moment they think they are in power.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 19 hours ago

They only like free speech because it lets them claim to be censored.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (1 children)

Jean Paul Sarte articulates my feelings on this better than I ever could.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 19 hours ago (3 children)

Interesting read.

They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The antisemites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert.

This is what we see these days. Trump and his followers lying is normalized, i.e., they are not "obliged to use words responsibly", whereas anybody argues against trumpists is.

They fear only to appear ridiculous or to prejudice by their embarrassment their hope of winning over some third person to their side.

This is what changed since then. They no longer fear being seen as ridiculous or stupid. They embrace it.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

That's why I claim all conservatives are pig fuckers. I don't care if it's true. It's up to them to argue with me. And they won't do that because they have their full 3" stuck in some pig.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

I think they still fear being perceived as ridiculous, but they’ve been very successful at making the bar really fucking high.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 19 hours ago

I think they only fear looking weak.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

They like free speech that doesn't get them immediately banned, not free speech for everyone else's ideas

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 19 hours ago

The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 16 hours ago

Which is why liberalism in a not so democratic country can do little to stop this type of decline. Too non violent, too careful, too scared

Ideally one would vote out authoritarian candidates, but what to do when it’s a taboo to criticize electronic vote counting? Vote counting on electronic platforms run by the very people the liberals oppose? Vote counting supported by a steadfast belief of state governments not being corrupted, and not being in cahoots with the wealthy families running said platforms?

“There are safeguards”, ”I trust in the process”

Then when voting fails what to do but use free speech to oppose what is happening?

“Surely they will allow my voice to rise and be heard and I can use reason”

Yes people will hear you but it won’t do much.

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