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[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 hours ago

Well nobody saw that coming

/s

[–] [email protected] 94 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (4 children)

~~Don't be evil~~

~~Do the right thing~~

~~Do no harm~~

Line must go up

[–] [email protected] 22 points 20 hours ago

Don't be evil (to the shareholders)

Do the right thing (for our stock value)

Do no harm (to our profit margins)

...

Line must go up (before it comes down) ((wishful thinking))

[–] [email protected] 5 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

Make everyone but "us" poor, so they can't afford to resist. Just start with marginalized populations (bc that is who america truly is deep down).

Divide and conquer

[–] [email protected] 5 points 18 hours ago

Do all the harm

[–] [email protected] 2 points 17 hours ago

Do harm others before others harm you

[–] [email protected] 25 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

A computer can never be held accountable, therefore a computer must never make a management decision.

IBM, in 1979.

This is wide open to send a nuke on allies and blame the AI.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 17 hours ago

send a nuke

Hey I've seen that movie.

[–] [email protected] 51 points 21 hours ago

Worth noting that when Google was founded, Microsoft was in the middle of a long antitrust investigation, which was documenting every illegal thing they had done to maintain their monopoly and hurt every company that challenged it.

The "evil" in the Don't Be Evil motto was widely seen as a reference to that company and that behaviour. From early on, Google saw Microsoft as a threat. They ran Linux servers, and tried to make sure as few employees as possible were running Microsoft on their desktops and laptops. A lot of internal tools were developed to try to avoid any kind of dependency on Microsoft, including ones that eventually became available externally like Google Docs etc.

Now, 25ish years later, it's Google who are being investigated for leveraging their monopoly in a way that hurts consumers. IMO, they still never stooped as low as Microsoft did. Google paid Apple and Mozilla billions to be the default search engine. Microsoft used lawsuits and patents to try to drive their competition out of business. But, it's still a monopoly that harms the world.

Anyhow, I'm glad that Google originally had the "Don't be evil" motto, and also had this bit about AI principles that avoid the risk of harm. They act like useful warrant canaries because when they're removed you know something's up.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Glad I abandoned Google 7 years ago when they made it obvious what they were really all about. I do miss my customized Android phones but it'll be a frozen day in hell before I give them another cent.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Genuine question: do they make money from AOSP being used on third party devices? Obviously they get revenue via the Play store, but you can avoid that by either installing something like graphine or an alternative store (Fdroid, Amazon, etc).

[–] [email protected] -2 points 14 hours ago

My understanding is there's a licensing fee for another company to say they have an 'android' phone.

That part doesn't matter to me. I ran de-Googled custom ROMs on my phones for many years, including cyanogenmod and later Lineage, only to find out they were tracking all of us against our will (and device settings) all along. That was the last straw for me.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

I mean of course they did. A public company can not be trusted to leave money on the table. The only thing that might slow them down is the bad press that might erode good will. In this climate though they were always going to strap Gemini to a machine gun.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 21 hours ago

Not only can they not be trusted to leave money on the table, but they can actively be trusted not to.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

"Well, you have to let us do a little harm." ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[–] [email protected] 11 points 18 hours ago

Oh god, they already blew off your arm!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 16 hours ago

do a little arm

[–] [email protected] 6 points 18 hours ago

Well, Gemini 2.0 is bad. Flash seems to have regressed to be worse than my local 32Bs, and pro fails some prompts 1.5 gets.

Maybe they are trying to compensate?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 21 hours ago

Do no harm (to quarterly earnings)

[–] [email protected] 7 points 19 hours ago

Doing evil and harm is one of their strengths.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

Same reason suckerberg went full elon. It's the gold rush of corporate greed with a conman at the helm

[–] [email protected] 1 points 20 hours ago

could Goog-l possibly change their motto to ‘Do no smarm’ then?