"this war is totally about NATO defending innocent Ukrainians from Russia," cries NATO, as it deports innocent Ukrainians back to the war zone. And here's the kicker: The Ukrainian government needs them to do this, because it's nearly run out of military age males to draft human traffick into mine fields with insufficient training who are still in the country.

thinkin-lenin what if revolutionary defeatism? what if no war but class war? what if the ukrainian proletariat doesn't deserve to be used as meat shields for the preemptive geopolitical jockeying of NATO against BRICS?

Some forced conscription videos

BONUS:

Zelensky admits it is in US interests to use Ukraine

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[–] 98 points 3 years ago (3 children)

Fun fact: that's a breach of their human rights. You can't extradite refugees so they will be drafted into war.

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  • [–] [S] 71 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    Capitalism only believes in inconsistently enforced "human rights," and asymmetrically enforced "human rights," which are able to be withdrawn at a moment's noticed by so-called "representatives". And they only believe in these insofar as they can be used as a sort of social sedative against revolutionary agitation.

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  • [–] 23 points 3 years ago

    So far I have mostly seen "human rights" being used as a cudgel by western powers against others nations, while conveniently ignored when concerning vassal countries (Blowback s4 is great btw)

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  • [–] 67 points 3 years ago (4 children)

    When they say they want to fight to the last Ukrainian, they really mean to the last Ukrainian

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  • [–] [S] 35 points 3 years ago (2 children)

    they want to fight to the last Ukrainian, they really mean to the last Ukrainian

    Zelensky admits it is in US interests to use Ukraine

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  • [–] 56 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    Wine Cave Warrior libs will defend this.

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  • [–] 49 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    Lmao kyiv independent "well acshually 🤓"d this:

    Ukrainians evading conscription abroad may be extradited "individually" but there will be no "mass extradition," Fedir Venislavsky, President Voldymyr Zelensky's representative in the Verkhovna Rada, said on Sept. 5.

    Venislavsky said that legally there is no procedure for the mass extradition of Ukrainian citizens from abroad as criminal liability has a personalized individual character.

    On Sept. 4, Polish newspaper Rzeczpospolita published an article saying that men who illegally left Ukraine may be extradited to their homeland.

    https://kyivindependent.com/official-there-will-be-no-mass-extradition-of-draft-evaders-from-abroad/

    Likely because it's a news, but on google it's above the UN's page if you google whether this is legal.

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  • [–] 45 points 3 years ago (4 children)

    Holy fucking shit they're drafting people into this war?? Over literal lines on a map???

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  • [–] 4 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    Ukraine cut loose prisoners with military experience to throw them into the grinder very early on in this war lol

    I'm surprised it took them this long to request something like this

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  • [–] 4 points 3 years ago

    B-b-b-but I thought only the ebul rooskies were recruiting prisoners!!1!1! That's what all my reliable news sources The New York Times, Azov's The Stormer, and The Kyiv Only Truth No Propaganda Here have told me!!!1!1!

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  • [–] 38 points 3 years ago

    NATO has also made sure that Ukrainian people can't revolt against this anymore by arming ultra nationalist Nazis to the teeth.

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  • [+] 36 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (2 children)
  • [–] 1 point 3 years ago (1 child)

    Including conscription in USSR and PRC?

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  • [–] 7 points 3 years ago

    I think there's an important difference here between capitalist and socialist uses. The bourgeoise state vs proletarian state. One is in service of the bourgeoisie while one is in service of the proletariat. One is in service of exploitation while one is in service of liberation from exploitation.

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  • [+] 14 points 3 years ago (2 children)