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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago (6 children)

From Wikipedia:

The term "tankie" was originally used by dissident Marxist–Leninists to describe members of the Communist Party of Great Britain (CPGB) who followed the party line of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union (CPSU). Specifically, it was used to distinguish party members who spoke out in defence of the Soviet use of tanks to suppress the Hungarian Revolution of 1956 and the 1968 Prague Spring, or who more broadly adhered to pro-Soviet positions.

I've never understood why there is any confusion over the word "tankie." It applies to the pro-cop left. If a leftist believes that it's necessary for cops to beat minorities and dissidents into submission for their society to function, they're tankies. If they approach leftism in a way that does not involve state violence against civilians to enforce those ideas, they're not tankies. To me there isn't a lot of gray area.

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 day ago (1 children)

True but only for terminally online liberals. I still haven't heard anyone in real life ever use that word.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It will happen in a few years from now.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago

Bet is going to be conservatives using it to talk about anyone left to Hitler

[–] [email protected] 38 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Authoritarianism is authoritarianism. Doesnt matter how you paint it.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 2 days ago (37 children)

Not really, no. To a capitalist, all forms of leftism is 'authoritarian,' because they consider private property natural and oppose leftists 'stealing' in.

'Authoritarianism' just isn't a particularly useful term because nobody who uses is is ever actually categorically opposed to forcefully compelling people to do or not do things. They will always have a build in exception for what ever they consider to be 'legitimate authority', and what they consider justified authority will just depend on what political philosophy they ascribe to. So really calling the word just means "someone with a different political theory to me with regards to legitimate authority."

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago

There are people who are categorically opposed to forcefully compelling people, and many of them use the word 'authoritarian'.

It can be a useful term, not all systems are equally authoritarian. It's a spectrum.

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 2 days ago
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