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In an unexpected mask off "secure" email and VPN provider Proton took the stance of siding with the fascist MAGA Reps. Proton's services are no option for me and many others any longer. Let's collect and discuss alternatives (E2E encrypted email and VPN) here πŸ”πŸ‘‡

Always try to provide:

-Server location (jurisdiction)

-Governance

-Integrity/trustworthiness/transparency

-User experience/ease of use (grade 1 to 10, lets take Proton as a benchmark with an 8)

-Pricing and links

If you know alternative setups, feel free to share, too.

#ProtonExodus

Background: https://lemmy.ca/comment/13913116

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 12 hours ago (3 children)

As a Brit, I'm not offended by the Proton CEO's post. I don't like Donald Trump BUT I do like that he has hired someone who should be tough on tech anti-trust moves. This is very important.

Americans can be obsessed with their electoral system, but the rest of us don't have to pretend to support the Democrats or Republicans. I don't necessarily agree with all of Andy Yen's take regarding the two parties, but I'm not offended enough by it to boycott Proton, certainly not based on one tweet. I can also see the pragmatic benefit to his position by massaging trumps well known fragile ego.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (5 children)

Whatever you choose, remember that ease of migration is important. So for email buy your own domain name and use a service like mailbox.org that allows custom domains and full IMAP access.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

i wanted to move my google stuff to Proton this year as a Backup for my self hosted stuff. Shame, seems like I need to put a little more time into managing my self hosted stuff

[–] [email protected] 2 points 16 hours ago

I was looking at Tresorit as a potential cloud option. I mean, not becausw of the Andy Yen stupid tweets debacle, its because Proton's mobile app is utter garbage, can't even download an entire folder when almost every other cloud provider can.

There are also Sync.com and Icecloud but I didn't like those. Sync.com's app looks outdated af, Icecloud makes extraordinary claims like how AES is built by the NSA and therefore is somehow "insecure" so they use a different algorithm. So Tresorit seems like the only one left that does encryption by default. (Mega's predecessor was shut down before, so I don't trust them for file longevity).

Anyone else got any other suggestions for cloud storage providers?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 15 hours ago

Ive been using proton for a little more than a year now and I think that the service is one of the best out there. That, and their privacy guides in their blog are great as well. I think abandoning ship this early isn't really a need. I've abondonded things like Plex for jellyfin due to Plex starting to feel very commerical. As others have pointed out, the governing of the company may keep one individuals views from interfering with the products. With that said, if your beliefs swing opposite, i see how it can leave a bad taste and make it worth keeping an eye on the direction of the company.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

is tuta the new pick for custom domain email?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 14 hours ago

Mailbox.org is another good one.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

I don't know about "the pick" but it was mine. Six months ago I looked around and decided to stay with Tuta for now. Encrypted email + calendar, on my custom domain, is all I need though. Ymmv

[–] [email protected] 2 points 14 hours ago

I only need email but they seem decent and much cheaper for multiple custom domains. They were one of the options I looked at before I signed up for proton and looks like they’ve improved a lot since, too

[–] [email protected] 2 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (5 children)

using services based on the ceo's political leaning instead of actual features and policies of that service? that's dumb, tell me when that political leaning reflects in polices of proton then we can talk

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 16 hours ago

So long, and thanks for all the fish

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