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The Duff CEO with a Windows-Logo on his forehead: "Gamers use Windows because of its' user experience not our de facto monopoly."

Next Image: Duff CEO with Windows-Logo in front of a "Out of Business" sign. Subtitle: "30 minutes after SteamOS is released"

Edit: Yo, I'm not saying this is gonna happen. I just want to say that Windew's UX sucks ass.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (11 children)

Unfortunately the biggest issue now is the anticheats that only function on windows. My friends refuse to switch to Linux because you cannot play:

  • fortnite
  • league of legends
  • escape from tarkov
  • battlefield
  • apex legends
  • valorant
  • R6 siege
  • GTA 5
  • Rust
  • Destiny 2 Etc

They'll play other games but because they mainline one of these they refuse to leave. As long as SteamOS has no answer to these anti cheats windows will maintain a dominance.

Source: https://areweanticheatyet.com/

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 hours ago

They literally care about market share and money watch the magical adoption of server stuff anti chest if Linux takes off

[–] [email protected] 12 points 9 hours ago

Don't make me tap the post title.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

I'm sure it's on the roadmap, but not a current priority. First get it to work decently and iron all the kinks out of steamos, then they can look at anti-cheating.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 hours ago

Its not because steam doesnt support it. Some of the games on that list have banned players from connecting online from linux. Apex legends put out a newsletter about how they couldn't keep up with cheating using linux OSes and so they had to just cut it off entirely.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

What kind of apostrophe use is

its'

?!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 hours ago (5 children)

That's how I learned to use the posessive pronoun of "it".

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 hours ago

Possessive it is "its"

It's = it is

English s weird

Great meme though!

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 hours ago

That I believe is only for plurals, such as:

(one) cat's paw vs (multiple) cats' paws

It, however, is not a plural, otherwise it would be "they". Though I must admit I've probably made the same mistake myself.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

"Who here wants a bathtub Mint distro?"

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 hours ago

Finally a comment that I expect from a simpsons shitpost community. Here's your reward: A scented candle!

[–] [email protected] 27 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (4 children)

Requisite "you don't need to wait for SteamOS" post.

Gamed on Linux for over 2 years. The time is now. Shit just works (mostly).

Edit: and yes, you can often get better performance on the same games with the same hardware.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 hours ago

My whole family largely uses Linux as our daily driver - ages - 40, 38, 18, 9, 7

The only one not running Linux is my 38 year old wife.

HOWEVER - my 9 year old got an occulus for Xmas, and suddenly we are dual booting and that's a real shame.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

you can often get better performance on the same games with the same hardware.

Because there's a reason why Linux does not randomly use the disk like Windows does

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 hours ago (10 children)

I don't really understand this buzz about Steam OS displacing Windows.

Windows is a general purpose computer OS; whereas Steam OS is a game-platform OS designed for the Steam Deck and similar devices. It doesn't seem to be the same use case. Obviously Steam OS could be used as a general purpose OS, if you just switch modes and install this and that software... but then what are you waiting for? There are already heaps of high quality general purpose Linux OSs already designed for that purpose. Linux Mint is a drop-in replacement for Windows, and has no problems whatsoever with games.

I mean, if you want to use Steam OS on your main computer, then that's fine - but I just don't really see a reason to use that rather than something that is already available, and already a desktop OS rather than a console OS.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 hours ago

Maybe some people only use their computers to play games? I don't know. I've been wondering as well. Pretty much any modern distribution works fine.

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[–] [email protected] 61 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

At least we didn't have to look at goddamn Ads in the menu. Also the AI """integration""" fucked up things pretty badly. Sometime you just need a simple, light, OS to do your thing.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (1 children)

This is the main problem right now.

People want to return to a lighter simple Windows OS, but Microsoft is making that increasingly hard to access. The LTSC version of Windows 10 is close(No AI, No Ads, and minimal telemetry that can be disabled), but they dont sell it to the public unless you buy 5 copies, and ~~there is no LTSC version of Windows 11 yet.~~ looks like they finally released it a couple months back, but people are unhappy with it.

Linux offers an alternative, but compatibility is still a huge issue despite the impressive gains Wine and Proton have made in the last few years.

The reality is that if you have a Windows PC you can basically guarantee that you can install anything you might want(barring hardware limitations). You can often make that software work on Linux too, but there is always some tinkering involved and the general public doesn't want to deal with that, nor do they want to change to a FOSS alternative.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 13 hours ago

And if you like playing certain games with kernel anti-cheat, the only way you're getting away from Windows is on console. Unless gamers jumping from Windows to Max/Linux increase by improbable orders of magnitude, that's not changing anytime soon.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 14 hours ago (3 children)

If SteamOS is ever launched for non-valve hardware, I would probably stop whatever I'm doing at work to get it installed

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

Copying my own comment from yesterday:

There was a comment thread in one of the Linux communities the other day talking about this mindset. Obviously the comments got a bit rude and unconstructive, but the point is that you can switch to something like bazzite now and most things will work pretty well, but if you're holding out until it's perfect then you'll be waiting forever!

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 hours ago

It was already launched for non-Valve hardware. Not for any hardware though, just a Lenovo handheld.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 14 hours ago

My old desktop has been demoted to console, and some time before Windows 10 goes EOL, I'm planning to try Bazzite on it. Seems like the closest we'll get to SteamOS on any hardware in the near future.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 15 hours ago (3 children)

Recall is the final straw for me. If there really is no way to permanently disable it then I'm going to have to get used to Linux/SteamOS. Which sucks because I really do seriously value things just working and not have to dig for hours to fix random issues with every little program I want to use. :/

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 hours ago

I value the same things and after spending a few days troubleshooting mh worlds and rummaging through internet forums, cmd line, reg edit i remembered my deck plays it fine and I installed fedora.

My os now uses 1gb of ram, i didn't need a day to find drivers for all my weird hardware as it all just worked, mh world runs without crashing, old weird games started working flawless, my graphics tablet doesn't want me to manually launch drivers to work

Windows has become what linux was.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

You will like Linux then because on Linux, unlike Windows, you can figure out why stuff goes wrong and then fix it for good instead of randomly having reappearances of the same problem (barring hardware issues like overheating of course but that affects all systems equally).

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 13 hours ago

Honestly, as someone comfortable with Linux already, but running Windows because of games, it was the last straw for me in a bigger way. A bunch of people up and down the chain at Microsoft thought recall was a good idea, and didn't need really basic safety features at launch. Not only is that very poor judgement, but what they think I want and need is so far disconnected from reality that following their upgrade path is a huge risk.

Maybe they'll put switches in to disable Recall, but maybe they'll want to take them away for my own good at some point in the future. Maybe they'll do so silently. I know there'll be an adjustment curve, but I'd rather be in control of it rather than let the people who thought Recall was a good idea updating my OS internals. I'll never install Windows 11 on a device I own, and I'm not holding my breath on future versions at this rate.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 18 hours ago (12 children)

Always had windows. Never wanted Linux because I didn’t want to dick around with every game install. You give me an OS that lets me browse and game WITHOUT having to dick around with every application, and I’d switch in a heartbeat.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (2 children)

Steam on Linux already does exactly that. You hit play and that's it, exactly like on Windows. The rest is done for you automatically.

Tinkering might be required with a few non-Steam games and programs, but for the most part, they just work as well.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

For the most part that's true, but when something goes wrong, it really goes wrong.

For example, I wanted to play Path of Exile 2, and it would get stuck at a black screen on startup. The fix is "easy" on Windows, you just edit an ini file in "My Documents". To fix it on Linux, that same file is stored in

/home/[YOUR USERNAME]/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/compatdata/2694490/pfx/drive_c/users/steamuser/Documents/My Games/Path of Exile 2/poe2_production_Config.ini

Which is insane by any standard.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 hours ago

And lets be honest, it is not as if tinkering isn't required for a lot of things on Windows too, it is just that the tinkering is a lot more random "hope & pray" stuff like uninstalling and reinstalling things, rebooting,... and hoping the problem goes away.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 16 hours ago (16 children)

I can't even remember the last time I had to fuck around with a Steam game, all the ones I want to play just work

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 16 hours ago

The first time you try Linux will have an initial learning curve. Just like the first time you tried Windows. But once you have everything set up the way you like and get used to it, you really won't find yourself having to troubleshoot very often. You certainly don't have to "dick around with every game install" either.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

It's actually gotten a lot better over the last few years; Valve has been putting in a lot of work into making gaming "just work" through Steam. It's still a bit jank, but honestly all OSes are a bit jank.

If anyone in this thread is interested, I'd recommend giving Linux Mint a go. There's nothing really to lose.

Anyway, I'm done shilling Linux so I'll let you get back to your Simpsoning. :P

[–] [email protected] 14 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

There’s nothing really to lose.

Just hours of your time as some random miniscule feature you were reliant upon without realizing it until it was missing, then have to look up a dozen different fixes using some stone aged console commands, none of which actually fix your issue...

[–] [email protected] 17 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (1 children)

This is my current experience with pop os. Took a while searching and digging through age old threads to figure out how to fix Rivals so it actually launches, then more searching to fix an issue I was having with the screen blacking out, and it's going to be more searching to figure out why audio keeps tearing while I'm full screened. It's a pain trying to make things compatible, so much so I'm extremely tempted to switch back to Windows 10 despite it hitting EOL this year. I really don't like having to waste my personal time making something work when there's an incredibly easy alternative where everything works always (aside from hardware issues)

Edit: especially peeved about trying to fix ffxiv. I want my shaders back >:(

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