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[–] [email protected] 125 points 1 year ago (11 children)

Evers reduced the GOP income tax cut from $3.5 billion to $175 million, and did away entirely with lower rates for the two highest earning brackets. He also used his partial veto power to increase how much revenue K-12 public schools can raise per student by $325 a year until 2425.

Evers took language that originally applied the $325 increase for the 2023-24 and 2024-25 school years and instead vetoed the “20” and the hyphen to make the end date 2425.

[–] [email protected] 106 points 1 year ago

Evers took language that originally applied the $325 increase for the 2023-24 and 2024-25 school years and instead vetoed the “20” and the hyphen to make the end date 2425

Now that's what I'm talking about. I will gladly cheer on this kind of fuckery when it does good.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Love to see it, especially later in 2435.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

I'm all for what he did, but with a power like this, he or any other future governor can veto "doesn't" to "do" and "can't" to "can". Probably baiting the WI SCOTUS to strike down the power before dems loose the office.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Anyone more familiar with how this works? Like, that wording is weird to me. How much revenue they can raise per student.

So is this like, local school taxes? Or like local fund raising? That wording doesn't sound like it's as big a win as the article title makes it sound like?

What are they supposed to do in the year 2425? Raise $140,000 per student?

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[–] [email protected] 72 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is great to see.

My biggest complaint about Democrats has always been their lack of balls, and weird cultish insistence that they always take the "high road" and try to work with Republicans in good faith.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Same. The democrats lack a spine and it's always drove me fucking nuts.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Most of them are just looking out for different rich people.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Rich and powerful look for rich and powerful

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Idk the “new gen” of democrats seem pretty ballsy to me. Maybe the other ones were just old and tired : )

[–] [email protected] 45 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Finally the Democrats are fighting fascism with pettiness!

[–] [email protected] 51 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There's no pettiness here. The changes he made are very good, positive help for our state, whereas veto of the entire budget would have been a disaster.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I’m all for this. It’s just a rarity that you see Dems do this kind of stuff. They try to play “by the book”

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Everything he did was by the book.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think what he means is, they usually play like they think the other guys are going to play by the rules.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

Well, yeah, but that’s more a side effect of having morals and empathy.

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It’s really refreshing to see a Dem fighting back like this. For decades now it’s been such an uneven playing field - Republicans constantly abusing executive authority to get what they want (thanks W. / Cheney), and Dems never doing more to combat it than sending strongly worded letters.

I don’t think the executive should have so much unilateral authority for either side, but it’s nice to see, for once, a Dem fight fire with fire.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

It’s bullshit, but it’s legal bullshit. Yeah, I know it’s not great when your chief argument for something involves it not being against the law to do so.

I’m not happy that we have the aggressive line-item veto in Wisconsin(nor that we have it at all), but I’m not happy about a lot of the political situation in this state. I would prefer it if the Republican-controlled legislature would work with the governor, or, you know, not gavel out inside of thirty seconds when called to do the business of the state.

But there is precedent. And if it’s good for the goose, it’s good for the gander, until we can curtail that power.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago (11 children)

Evers was unable to undo the $32 million cut to the University of Wisconsin, which was funding that Republicans said would have gone toward diversity, equity and inclusion — or DEI — programming and staff.

How on earth do you justify cutting funding for diversity, equity, and inclusion?? Are those not things we as a country want to promote?

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not if you are a conservative.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (3 children)

We cannot keep calling them "conservative." Abolishing standards has nothing to do with conservatism.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They are the opposite of progressives. They are regressives.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The correct Term would be "reactionary"

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Sort of, but they're working so hard to undo progress that has already been made. They're not just opposed to new things, they're actively working to make things worse.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Conservatism has never been about conserving "things", it's always been about conserving power.

That's what conservatism has stood for since its inception. The conservation of power by the rich elites. A conservative voter is basically a monarchist.

Almost literally, as conservatism as an ideology was created as a backlash to the French Revolution, except instead of worshiping bloodlines, it worships wealth. Which is often the same thing, but is slightly more open to new wealth joining the cause, and then that new wealth helping to keep everyone else poor.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Instead of calling them the Grand Old Party (GOP), can we just call them for what they are, the Fascist American Party (FAP)?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

I can't tell if this is a serious question. I mean, have you met Republicans?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There's a large base of people who think DEI initiatives are unnecessary. I agree with you in that the United States ought to strive for promoting these ideas, programs and staff - but there's a huge push back from many people.

A common argument I'll always fall into is the idea that if you work hard, you'll be successful - no matter who you are and what you look like. We know this isn't always true and it's why we have DEI initiatives.

To the people who don't want to promote it, I'm not sure how they can justify it.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

I think some people fail to realize (or care) that not everyone comes from the same starting point. Imagine a foot race; if one person starts out 40 yards from the finish line, while another person starts 100 yards away, it doesn't matter if the second person tries twice as hard and runs twice as fast, they still finish behind the first person. Unfortunately people from more impoverished communities and backgrounds tend to be like the second person with further to run.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Promote? Sure. Spend millions of tax dollars? Not necessary.

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Taxing the wealthy is the greatest thing for society.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We more critically need to break up the monopolies in the US and stop approving anti competitive mergers, spread ranked choice voting so that reasonable people have a chance to be elected and the country stops dividing, and implement single payer healthcare so that we aren't bankrupting everyone the instant they get a little sick and generational wealth is not just for the rich.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Idk I’ve always struggled with generational wealth. Would you be interested in arguing some point for it in terms of overall societal benefit or do you lean toward solely individualistic-responsibility

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago

I fcking love this.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Finally the do nothing dems actually did something

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

I agree when it comes to the state party, but Evers has been great from the start. He's just not very boastful, probably with good reason.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

This is hilarious! It's also ridiculous that tactics like this is what government is.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I mean it seems like a good use in this case but what? This is actually a thing that governors can do in Wisconsin? It reads like an onion article.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Every loss for the GOP/Nazi party is a win for everyone.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Wow, legislating like this is a society that cares about its own future instead of a piggybank of resources to be exploited for private profit by our oligarchs.

How very un-American. It's like he doesn't even care what this will do to billionaire ego scores. Not much, but maybe something perceptible on an earnings report! They'll never piss down those golden showers of prosperity they've been promising for half a century if we don't give them ALL the value society produces!

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