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[–] [email protected] 123 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (9 children)

Europe is not as different from the US as it likes to pretend, especially politically.

Racism is not a unique or exceptionally American phenomenon, and the things I've heard from otherwise progressive Europeans can fucking curdle milk equal or in excess to what people in my ultra-rural ultra-conservative home region of the US can say.

[–] [email protected] 60 points 4 days ago (15 children)

I've had good friends who were Europeans studying here, and they can definitely be very insensitive and racist. What makes the two flavors of racism different to me is American racism is typically very confrontational, tribalistic. White man calling a black man a slur, and there's something cavalier about it, maybe even humorous on the part of the racist.

Europeans have a much more "it is the way it is" attitude. I've heard friends talk very disparagingly about interracial couples, or blacks in general, and the attitude is less "hate for hate's sake" but instead "it is the wrong way to be and my way is correct". Fascinatingly, when you point out the bigotry, my friends have typically refused to accept their bias (at best), and will deny they're racist.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 days ago (2 children)

The American South equals the European East

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[–] [email protected] 39 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (32 children)

Europeans are really fucking racist. Asians and Jews are cool and yet yall are really weird about them. and don't get me started on how badly Islam is vilified...

[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 days ago (8 children)

European here, you're entirely right. The racism here is heavily engrained in the cultural rivalries, where we're racist against all the foreign cultures, and there's just so many of them you can't reconcile all of them. Italians, slavs (and all the different slavs), Nordics, Spaniards, Dutch, German, French, Russians, etc. And that's not even scratching religion, color, or other continents.

The Irish are cool most everywhere tho.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 days ago (4 children)

The question should read

"Americans; give us your baseless opinions of a continent you don't understand, and then get a rage-on in the comments when you are laughed at"

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Huh. Just the same as when this was asked of Europeans about the states.

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[–] [email protected] 65 points 4 days ago (8 children)

You guys should start bulking up your militaries. At best, the US will completely abandon you, and I really don't want to think about worst-case scenario as I live in the US.

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[–] [email protected] 81 points 4 days ago (11 children)

yall need to get off the high horse and take a joke sometimes. you terrorized the entire world via colonization for hundreds of years through modern day, if people harmlessly stereotype the german or french, make fun of british people, or tease the dutch language, yall can handle it

for context, im american. we get bullied all the time, and while not all americans are fat and stupid, the combination of that many are and that we've terrorized the world plenty make me think a lil teasing is fair

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[–] [email protected] 74 points 4 days ago (27 children)

Based on the comments it looks like Europeans weren't ready to hear some of these things. 😉 Let me pile on...

Innovation in Europe is stiffled due to a risk-averse culture, complex regulatory environments, fragmented markets across different countries, limited access to venture capital, and a tendency for established companies to be less receptive to new ideas from startups, making it harder for innovative companies to scale up (compared to the US).

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago

Rather have stifled innovation than innovation running rampant like what the US is doing.

With stifled innovation you only get through if you have an actual good idea instead of just an idea that makes money.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 days ago (9 children)

EU institutions are just as regulatory captured as everywhere else. The EU bureaucracy is horribly inefficient with tons of unfirable "human drones" making 2x for the same role one does in the the private market, where they just do 1/10x of the work. The only reason EU is not quite as corrupt as USA is ironically because all the competing rich fuckers of each nation are competing with each other's lobbying

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

We have less corruption because our bureaucracy is horribly inefficient.

If they want to bribe someone, they need to bribe a ton of people making it more costly and more visible.

Want to know what an efficient bureaucracy looks like? A dictatorship.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago (7 children)

It might be unpopular opinion, but I firmly believe that Inefficiencies in the bureaucracy is a good thing considering alternatives. It acts like a buffer, redundancies are in effect acting like checks and balances, and it's way harder to break or subvert than the one without redundancy.
And money that spent on it are such a minuscule percentage of overall spendings, it worth it in the end

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