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Not my title! I do think we are being listened to. And location tracked. And it's being passed on to advertisers. Is it apple though? Probably not is my take away from this article, but I don't trust plenty of others, and apple still does

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Why wouldn't you think this? There is no system in place for monitoring those companies, nor is there any type of punishment for if they were to be proven to be doing so. While on the other hand, there are piles of money to be made from advertisers for allowing exactly that to happen.

I've personally had things come up as being advertised to me after being NEAR people talking about those items, and I have seen several videos where people show this effect in action.

Frequency illusion is real, but is not reliable enough to repeat over and over, back to back, unlike the advertising.

When, ever, have the capitalist companies prioritized morality over money? Never.

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[–] Travelator 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

On Android, I have the mic, location, and camera blocked via the pulldown tiles menu. I turn them on when needed. The OS and some apps like to bitch about this sometimes but it seems to be working ok.

My iphone does not offer these blanket blocking options. It's a work phone, so I just leave it off unless I need it.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago (13 children)

So one of the devices allegedly grabbing keywords from heard conversations, you'd trust with a software based toggle?

I'd only trust hardware toggle.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (7 children)

Ads aren't why you should be concerned about apps w/ microphone access...

Where exactly are you getting the idea that this belief is widespread?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago

Not my title, as I already said. But anecdata backs this up ime. Go ask your parents for a giggle, see what they say

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I don't either hut the alternative is much worst in my opinion. It would mean the algorithms are so advanced they are predicting conversations instead of listening to them.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

Two ways to process voice, on device or on server. Device-based solutions either are very basic and just detect differences between words or need training data based on your voice or they need lots of processing power for more generalized voice recognition. So is your battery draining and phone is often hot because an app is keeping the mic on and keeping the phone from slowing the processor? Other option is to stream the data to the server. This would also increase battery usage as the phone can't sleep, but might not be as noticeable, but more evident would be your phone using a lot more bandwidth than is reasonable while you aren't actively using it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Apple is the one who got caught so far

If you think Google, Amazon, Meta, Microsoft, Samsung et al aren’t doing this, I’ve got a bridge to sell you.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago

Did yall read the article?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago

I’ll buy-t. What did Apple get caught doing that these other companies haven’t got caught doing?

Edit: Oh, the Siri settlement. The article linked argues against the claim of it being used for advertising, though.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago

Ok? I didn't say differently. OP said

Is it apple though? Probably not is my take away from this article, but I don't trust plenty of others, and apple still does

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago

Aw jeez not this again.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 week ago (3 children)

battery life would fall through the floor if they did spy

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

A phone reacting to "ok Google" or the equivalent for the other assistants already requires to listen to what you're saying - doesn't seem to affect battery life all that much.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago (11 children)

That was once true, but I am now very skeptical of that with on-device processing that can log key words and send them without using much data or power.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago

Yeah, there's just more effective methods to get essentially the same data.

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