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[–] 60 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Chaos Communication Congress is such a cool event... 🇩🇪🇩🇪🇩🇪

Last year, they hacked a train to prove that the manufacturing company wrote code that fully locks the train when it arrives at rival repair shops.

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  • [–] 30 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    What models have they tracked?

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  • [–] [S] 14 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Hard to know as the whole presentation hasn't been released yet, for now only people who were in the conference room would know.

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  • [–] 26 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child)

    Let's be real, any VW cars with a head unit with maps capabilities and a SIM card are certainly tracked down. Why would it be limited to electric drivetrain cars only? There's no GPS in the motors... It's in the head unit

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  • [–] 17 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    This echoes my thought. A friend of mine had a petrol driven Golf from like 2019 or so with an app he could use to access it. I think it had a GPS built in, so I don’t see why VW wouldn’t have been able to record that.

    Car manufacturers don’t face nearly enough scrutiny or regulation as they ought.

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  • [–] 21 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Tech bros really never got the idea that cyberpunk is a genre of dystopian fiction.

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  • [–] 9 points 2 years ago* (3 children)

    You're confusing the people who wrote the code with the product (business) team that decided they could monetize it. Engineers in large companies have zero creative control, and the people who do look more like wall street finance bros than the guys on silicon valley. Not that they don't also suck, but please get why they suck.

    Tech bros refers to a misogynistic behavior within tech circles and especially software development tied to traditional ideas that women can't be technical because their vaginas get in the way. As a secondary bonus this leads to women trying to crush other women.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    It's a dystopic for us, for them it is the bright future

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  • [–] 17 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Is there a company yet that let's me pay them to internet disconnect and rip out sensors on a modern car?

    I recognize that its a tricky process, but since the Mozilla report, it seems like there's a market for it. I'd happily pay $5k for a privacy-mod to an electric vehicle.

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  • [–] 14 points 2 years ago* (2 children)

    You misspelled: “I will happily re-elect and maybe donate to someone that will vote against this bullshit use of people’s data.”

    Edit: my point is no one should be subject to this BS regardless of how much they can pay.

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  • [–] 16 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    It's a well known privacy issue to those who care about privacy. It’s Official: Cars Are Terrible at Privacy and Security

    The good news is that it this information will eventually reach the insurance companies. That should help with terrible car drivers getting some incentives and disincentives to not suck so much.

    Automakers Are Sharing Consumers’ Driving Behavior With Insurance Companies - The New York Times

    If you want freedom, you get a bicycle.

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    [–] 16 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I just watched the video. It is again a great and understandable talk, even for someone who has little technical knowledge. They also subtitle all their videos in English. I recommend it to everyone.

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  • [–] 11 points 2 years ago

    Isn't this very illegal in the EU?

    Can we please start criminally punishing the execs that signed off on this?

    There is an enormous problem with companies just knowingly and willingly breaking the law, taking the fines as cost of business

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  • [+] 10 points 2 years ago* (last edited 11 months ago)
    [–] 8 points 2 years ago*

    You can probably assume every device with satnav and an internet connection is doing this.

    And those 20 pages of text you scrolled to the bottom of without reading in order to click the OK button to get the directions to the nearest McDonalds gives them every right to do so.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 years ago

    Das Dumbass

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  • [–] 5 points 2 years ago

    They collect every single thing from how many times you open your door to how fast you drive

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  • [–] 4 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Surprisingly little in Turkey

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  • [–] 4 points 2 years ago

    hahahaha toldya x50

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago

    I am so glad my car was made just before all this massive enshittification.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago*

    Somebody made it public explicitly because S3 buckets are private by default. So I guess some of their components needed to be able to read it and they didn't have the skills or time/money to do it in a more fine-grained way.

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