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[–] 253 points 3 years ago (18 children)

Can we say the obvious for a second?

Good decision. Everyone needs to be able to see this. It's important, especially in this climate.

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  • [–] 82 points 3 years ago (4 children)

    Something this important, we all need to witness, no matter which way the verdict goes.

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  • [–] 54 points 3 years ago (3 children)

    Except the people that need to watch it are going to refuse and call it corruption. And still have extremely strong, unmoveable, opinions about it.

    Same as the Jan 6th hearing

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    [–] 186 points 3 years ago (18 children)

    Anyone a big enough drunk to take a shot every time Trump, himself, tries to object?

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  • [–] 47 points 3 years ago (5 children)

    What if you take a drink every time he tries to object to his own defense? I'm pretty sure taking a shot when he objects to anything would kill even the most experienced alcoholic.

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    [–] 105 points 3 years ago (2 children)

    They should add some twitch integration too, 10,000 bits and the defendant has to floss.

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    [+] 89 points 3 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)
  • [–] 83 points 3 years ago (7 children)

    I hope he suddenly goes all sovereign citizen and handles his own defense.

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    [–] 74 points 3 years ago (41 children)

    Sadly this will only be watched as justice porn for the left, the right won't even care.

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    [–] 69 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    I’m wholeheartedly behind the WGA & SGA, but god bless Georgia for coming in clutch with content over the next year plus.

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    [–] 69 points 3 years ago (2 children)

    This should 100% be televised. This affects us all. This was the attempted overthrow of our democracy and justice should not be hidden.

    There is way more benefit then problem with this IMHO.

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    [–] 66 points 3 years ago (5 children)

    Wonder what sponsors they’ll have… Will the judge ask us to smash the like button?

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    Out-fucking-standing. I am absolutely going to watch this. It’ll be the first Trump footage I’ve voluntarily watched in quite a while.

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  • [–] 57 points 3 years ago (5 children)

    So we're clear, this is not the revolution

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  • [–] 50 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (12 children)

    I am not going to watch any of that.

    When he was on the NPR news cycle five times a day I started yelling and cursing uncontrollably to the point where I was diving at the radio to turn it off or change the station so that I would not freak the fuck out.

    It doesn't matter where Trump is. I don't want to be there. It is a defilement to view him.

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    [–] 48 points 3 years ago (20 children)

    My word, that is delicious.

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    [–] 46 points 3 years ago (5 children)

    I wonder what Fox will find to run instead.

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    [–] 44 points 3 years ago (36 children)

    This is going to backfire in a big way. Whole lot of people seem to think this will be justice porn or somehow convince his base of his criminality but it is going to do no such thing. According to one poll, the majority (77%) of likely GOP primary voters are already convinced the trial is "politically motivated", with only 8% more concerned about him attempting to overturn an election. You can take a look at some polling here, there are other even more troublesome results as well: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-poll-indictments-2023-08-20/

    No matter how awful, contradictory, and ridiculous he will be in that court room, this is likely going to be a massive boon for Trump, and his followers are going to see it as the realization of their own fears of persecution. This man is an ascendant fascist leader, not the sad sack finally facing consequences that liberals so desperately want him to be, and the effect this will have on mobilizing his base to continue to escalate will be immense. These people do not give a single fuck about """law and order""" no matter how much they pretend they do, stop assuming they will just accept things when he is found guilty. They won't.

    I'm just trying to help people realize how dangerous and precarious this whole situation is. People were laughing and making jokes when he first announced his candidacy, and kept on doing it right up to the point that he won the election. Don't make the same mistake again, because while yall are cracking jokes, him and his ghouls are hurting people. They are passing discriminatory laws, they are in the supreme court setting dangerous precedents and overturning inconvenient ones, and they are patrolling the streets looking for people to brutalize and throw in jail. They are committing hate crimes and becoming increasingly radicalized and mobilized.

    Stop pretending this is entertainment or business as usual, it's not. I'm begging you to understand that the fascists are already here, and the longer they're underestimated the better their chances of seizing control.

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  • [–] 75 points 3 years ago* (14 children)

    This is going to backfire.

    First of all, never try to get inside a conservative's head if you are going to come out with a loser defeatism attitude. 2nd, Convicted Sex Offender Treason Trump will not have any control of the trial at all.

    of likely GOP primary voters are already convinced the trial is "politically motivated"

    That is the most important reason why the trial needs to be televised.

    Stop pretending this is entertainment or business as usual, it's not.

    Another reason why it is absolutely critical to have the trial televised. I can remember the Watergate TV hearings and the entire country was riveted by the seriousness of the proceedings. The Jan 6 House committee televised hearing were also riveting for everybody who watched them in full. It will be like that only with everyone watching. The very reason for televising the proceedings is so that everybody understands the seriousness.

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  • [–] 31 points 3 years ago (2 children)

    Remember that Onion headline "man would die fighting to defend what he imagines the Constitution to be"?

    Many modern conservatives are like that. They will bleat all day about laws, and yet have never spent 2 minutes even reading a Wikipedia page about them.

    They'll believe whatever pundits tell them to believe.

    Witch hunt? Unconstitutional? Politically motivated? Kangaroo court?

    Not for one minute will any of those law and order loving, institution-protecting, facts not feelings, crowd consider that Trump is there because of real actual crimes he really did commit.

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    [–] 39 points 3 years ago (5 children)
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    [–] 37 points 3 years ago (12 children)

    How can they actually get jurors for this?

    If the facts require the jurors to convict, there is no chance that this won't ruin their lives (if not significantly shorten them). Even before then, it's going to be a problem. His supporters have already declared and demonstrated that they are willing to use violence.

    Thank you, but I'd sit in jail as long as necessary to not be on any of these juries.

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  • [–] 29 points 3 years ago (5 children)

    How do you even find an impartial jury? I might be wrong but I was almost certain that an impartial jury is required to convict, which is why they always ask you about potential conflicts of interest when you attend jury duty. How many impartial jurors can there be at this point? Tbh, I'm not even sure I would trust an impartial jury with this case. To me, if you're claiming to be impartial then you're either lying, or you give zero fucks about politics and the people around you. Being impartial in this context has some really concerning implications about you.

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  • [–] 34 points 3 years ago* (1 child)

    Am I biased? Fucking absolutely and I hope he's found guilty.

    Can I set aside my bias and only consider the evidence as presented? Also fucking absolutely.

    There are plenty of people who care enough about the rule of law that would let a man they hate walk free. If you can't, perhaps you should be more concerned with yourself than the implications you ascribe to others who don't deserve it.

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    [–] 33 points 3 years ago (8 children)

    Advertising revenue will clear the national debt

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    [–] 32 points 3 years ago (5 children)

    Try a clown, expect a circus

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    [–] 29 points 3 years ago (3 children)

    I hope the writers are not on strike by then. Late night careers will be made from this.

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    [–] 29 points 3 years ago (3 children)

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    [–] 27 points 3 years ago (3 children)

    Is this a new trend? like Johnny depp and Amber heard !? twitch ttv would melt if they added a 'court room' tab

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